Who are currently the most overrated active fighters?

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  • mathed
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    #21
    Originally posted by Truth.
    Here are a few I consider very overrated:

    Bradley - he apparently 'finds a way to win'...in other words he gets gift decisions. Pretty solid all-round fighter, but how/why people had him as high as 3rd in their P4P rankings is beyond me. His best win (legit win) is against a 40 year old Marquez who has a history of struggling against fighters who can move.

    D.Garcia - slow, flat-footed, no head movement, no jab. He's got decent power and a good chin, but he lacks natural boxing ability. He can easily be outboxed.

    Provodnikov - talentless, predictable, robotic. Extremely overrated power. Good watch though.

    Maidana - he's been getting so much unwarranted hype recently. I like him, but he's no monster.
    lol.....lose to Pac and you're overrated, got it. Funny that all these "overrated" bums you are talking bout are title holders though. How did they win titles if they suck so bad?

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    • Da Machine
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      #22
      Originally posted by Truth.
      What part of it doesn't make sense? I simply don't think the guys I mentioned are as good as people think. You are free to disagree.
      I told you why. Proven fighters can't be overrated. It "LITERALLY" makes no sense.

      Maybe you should explain in what way they are overrated?

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      • John Locke
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        #23
        Originally posted by mathed
        lol.....lose to Pac and you're overrated, got it. Funny that all these "overrated" bums you are talking bout are title holders though. How did they win titles if they suck so bad?
        I never said they're bums, they're all tough fighters.

        Originally posted by Red Slider
        I told you why. Proven fighters can't be overrated. It "LITERALLY" makes no sense.

        Maybe you should explain in what way they are overrated?
        What an illogical post. I suggest you look up the definition of 'overrated'.

        For starters, beating fighters Alvarado, Ortiz, Josesito Lopez etc doesn't prove anything.

        You can be a good fighter and overrated at the same time.

        I've already explained why I think each fighter is overrated.

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        • Carpe Diem
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          #24
          Keith Thurman. He's the new flavor of the month who can beat Floyd Mayweather.

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          • shenmue
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            #25
            Diego Chaves, looks decent before getting stopped vs unproved Keith Thurman and now there's loads on here who say "That Chaves fella is better than a lot of WW fighters out there, better than his fellow Argie Maidana for sure"

            Hasn't beaten anybody of note and loses vs Thurman, not evidence enough for me. I do want to see him fight again though as he was entertaining but no proof he is a better fighter than Maidana.

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            • John Locke
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              #26
              Originally posted by shenmue
              Diego Chaves, looks decent before getting stopped vs unproved Keith Thurman and now there's loads on here who say "That Chaves fella is better than a lot of WW fighters out there, better than his fellow Argie Maidana for sure"

              Hasn't beaten anybody of note and loses vs Thurman, not evidence enough for me. I do want to see him fight again though as he was entertaining but no proof he is a better fighter than Maidana.
              Other than the Thurman fight, I've seen very little of him. He looked solid in that fight though.

              Apparently he was rated higher than Mattyhsse and Maidana in Argentina before the Thurman fight.

              I'd like to see him get more exposure in the US for sure.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Truth.
                Most people.

                A lot of guys had him top 3 P4P and still have him near the top.
                The only guy who has been able to beat him is an 8 division champ, fighter of the decade and an ATG. This is also when Bradley pulled something in his leg.

                Tim is a two division champ and every single fight he has had since 2008 has been a title fight. I personally think you just don't like him which is cool but there are clearly more "overrated" guys out there than him.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  The only guy who has been able to beat him is an 8 division champ, fighter of the decade and an ATG. This is also when Bradley pulled something in his leg.

                  Tim is a two division champ and every single fight he has had since 2008 has been a title fight. I personally think you just don't like him which is cool but there are clearly more "overrated" guys out there than him.
                  Provodnikov beat him as well imo. I think Bradley fought with emotion in that fight though, he'd win a rematch easily if he boxed.

                  Other than Pac and Marquez, he hasn't fought any elite fighters.

                  Bradley hasn't beaten any top fighter impressively, he just doesn't impress me. He's not a bad fighter, he's got a bit of everything but he's not outstanding in any areas, he's just a good fighter, nothing more.

                  I have nothing against Bradley, he seems like a really nice guy.

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                  • shenmue
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Truth.
                    Other than the Thurman fight, I've seen very little of him. He looked solid in that fight though.

                    Apparently he was rated higher than Mattyhsse and Maidana in Argentina before the Thurman fight.

                    I'd like to see him get more exposure in the US for sure.
                    Would make no sense if he was rated higher than Maidana and Lucas, those 2 have superior resumes and have pretty good followings in Argentina. But yes i also want to see Chaves fight on US TV again, him vs Karras or Lopez would be a good comeback fight for him. Would also be his best win if he was to get it.

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                      #30
                      GGG, Mikey Garcia, Kovolev, Quillen. None of these guys are bums, but none of them deserve much praise for their resumes so far. Hopefully the guys with the deep pockets (HBO, Showtime) force these guys to fight some live competition for once.

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