People are saying if Canelo...

[SeekDaGreat]

Couldn't phase Mayweather then how could Maidana?

It's real simple, game plan.

Canelo yes, is the higher skilled fighter between him and Maidana BUT IF Maidana goes with the bull-rush game plan (which is pretty much his game plan for all fights) THEN that is how he is going to stand a chance.

In hindsight, Canelo lost the fight in training camp.

It's obviously proven to still be a long-shot, but I'm just clarifying this for the pessimists!

[Furn]

If Maidana couldn't phase Alexander how does he phase Floyd.

It will be a boring shutout, worse than Guerrera.

I know you don't want to believe that because you're going to pay $70 to watch it but there's no other way it can go.

[DreamMerchant12]

If Maidana couldn't phase Alexander how does he phase Floyd.

It will be a boring shutout, worse than Guerrera.

I know you don't want to believe that because you're going to pay $70 to watch it but there's no other way it can go.

They'll just say "Maidana's different under Robert Garcia", although that won't make an ounce of a difference against Floyd. Maidana couldn't phase Alexander or a war torn Erik Morales, but some people think he'll do better against arguably the best boxer of our generation?

[SeekDaGreat]

If Maidana couldn't phase Alexander how does he phase Floyd.

It will be a boring shutout, worse than Guerrera.

I know you don't want to believe that because you're going to pay $70 to watch it but there's no other way it can go.

Well actually I'm not a recluse like you so the sheer thought of you saying $70 dollars goes to show youre assuming I'm either a.) buying this by myself, b.) watching it by myself, c.) both. OR D.) the funniest one of them all I'm paying $70 while a bunch of people mooch off of me and drink all my beer and I'm stuck putting the bill. Yeah, that's not happening.

And you're wrong on all four accounts.

Now that THAT is out of the way, let's discuss your point.

You're right Maidana couldn't do **** against Devon and he may (no PUN intended) not touch Floyd either.

But to compare what he did in a fight two years ago against a completely different guy and assume that will be the outcome of a fight two years later with another completely different boxer is just asinine man.

That's the most narrow minded logic you could apply.

[SeekDaGreat]

They'll just say "Maidana's different under Robert Garcia", although that won't make an ounce of a difference against Floyd. Maidana couldn't phase Alexander or a war torn Erik Morales, but some people think he'll do better against arguably the best boxer of our generation?

No, I'm saying the game-plan is different so people saying that a bigger, smarter, stronger Canelo not being able to touch Floyd doesn't apply in this case because the strategy will be different.

I dunno where the **** Robert Garcia came into this from, you guys are getting off track here.

[DreamMerchant12]

No, I'm saying the game-plan is different so people saying that a bigger, smarter, stronger Canelo not being able to touch Floyd doesn't apply in this case because the strategy will be different.

I dunno where the **** Robert Garcia came into this from, you guys are getting off track here.

I know the strategy is different, but most people would just say that Maidana switching trainers is what would give him a better shot against the likes of DA and Amir Khan were he to get rematches with them, but the fact of the matter is that Maidana has problems with guys with good to great boxing skills, no matter who trains him. I'm looking forward to this fight no matter which way it goes, but he won't do any better than Canelo did imo.

[SeekDaGreat]

I know the strategy is different, but most people would just say that Maidana switching trainers is what would give him a better shot against the likes of DA and Amir Khan were he to get rematches with them, but the fact of the matter is that Maidana has problems with guys with good to great boxing skills, no matter who trains him. I'm looking forward to this fight no matter which way it goes, but he won't do any better than Canelo did imo.

You might be right, all I'm saying is IF he goes in there with the game-plan we expect him to then that alone is giving him a better chance than what Canelo did. Or anyone else who tried to get cute with Floyd.

[DreamMerchant12]

You might be right, all I'm saying is IF he goes in there with the game-plan we expect him to then that alone is giving him a better chance than what Canelo did. Or anyone else who tried to get cute with Floyd.

Now that I can agree with. Canelo tried to fight Floyd's fight, which was extremely dumb, but if Maidana can take it to Floyd like Cotto did, despite him still clearly losing, he could make things interesting.

[Black Barty]

Couldn't phase Mayweather then how could Maidana?

It's real simple, game plan.

Canelo yes, is the higher skilled fighter between him and Maidana BUT IF Maidana goes with the bull-rush game plan (which is pretty much his game plan for all fights) THEN that is how he is going to stand a chance.

In hindsight, Canelo lost the fight in training camp.

It's obviously proven to still be a long-shot, but I'm just clarifying this for the pessimists!

That's how he plans on dealing with the best defensive fighter in the world? Bullrush him? If only boxing (and life in general) was that simple...

Imagine if Rigo and Kiko Martinez were about to fight, and Kiko said "I'm going to beat him by bullrushing him". People would laugh at him, and with good reason.

[SeekDaGreat]

That's how he plans on dealing with the best defensive fighter in the world? Bullrush him? If only boxing (and life in general) was that simple...

Imagine if Rigo and Kiko Martinez were about to fight, and Kiko said "I'm going to beat him by bullrushing him". People would laugh at him, and with good reason.

Yeah, would you care elaborate what better option Maidana has? since you walked in acting like a knock off Bert Sugar.

Is he going to out box Floyd? The floor is yours..