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  • #21
    Originally posted by xcaret IV View Post
    haha and mexicos amateur program is great right?.. manny pacquiao actually did help them, thats how you got the rey bumtista, z gorrez, gesta etc, but they never did shi*.. not anyones fault but theirs.. they just couldnt do it, pacquao is all they got and they finally realized it.. oh yeah about them being young-ish, in mexico you got fighters like margarito turning pro at 15!

    so dont give me that bullshi* excuse
    Lol, what a silly thread.

    The Philipines just produced 2 great fighters the past decade. 1 is the Fighter of the decade & an ATG, & as I stated earlier, the other is 2012 fighter of the year Nonito Donaire who's had a damn good career so far. That's pretty awesome in my book & those accomplishments cannot be erased no matter how ignorant people wanna be.
    Last edited by Kiddoe; 04-22-2014, 11:27 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Kiddoe View Post
      "He was losing to Vic"

      LOL.. Reaching a bit there.
      Lol he was behind and all the cards before the stoppage

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      • #23
        Originally posted by MK4R32 View Post
        Lol he was behind and all the cards before the stoppage
        U gotta silly way of thinking lol. The result is always what matters. TKO in the 9th.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by MK4R32 View Post
          Lol he was behind and all the cards before the stoppage
          Exactly.

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          • #25
            I just hope these young pinoy boys are trying to be Manny "The Destroyer" Pacquiao and not Manny "tenk u gewd" Pacquiao

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            • #26
              Originally posted by xcaret IV View Post
              haha and mexicos amateur program is great right?.. manny pacquiao actually did help them, thats how you got the rey bumtista, z gorrez, gesta etc, but they never did shi*.. not anyones fault but theirs.. they just couldnt do it, pacquao is all they got and they finally realized it.. oh yeah about them being young-ish, in mexico you got fighters like margarito turning pro at 15!

              so dont give me that bullshi* excuse
              A lot easier when you got that cartel money funding a lot of those boxing gyms down in Mexico, or did y'all forget that they are massive boxing fans as well.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Kiddoe View Post
                Lol, what a silly thread.

                The Philipines just produced 2 great fighters the past decade. 1 is the Fighter of the decade & an ATG, & as I stated earlier, the other is 2012 fighter of the year Nonito Donaire who's had a damn good career so far. That's pretty awesome in my book & those accomplishments cannot be erased no matter how ignorant people wanna be.
                When you consider how massive a population there is as well as that boxing has always been rather popular in Philippines you'd expect to see Mexico or Japan levels of success.




                In terms of production of world class fighters IMO it would be something like this:

                Tier 1: United States, Mexico
                Tier 2: Japan, United Kingdom
                Tier 3: Ukraine, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Cuba
                Tier 4: Russia, Argentina, France, Canada, Thailand

                I tried to weigh based on current success combined with historical relevance and success.

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                • #28
                  as a Filipino i would like to let the people here know that there are a lot of talents in boxing in the Philippines. However, the big problem is getting a good management team or any type of organization who would invest or take care of the poor boxers in the country. they get no support that they just tend to switch to other job or career in life. the lucky ones are either managed by a foreigner who has money to invest in this business. Filipinos are a sucker for the "IN" thing. if boxing ain't trending no one cares. just like now that Pacquiao is about to leave the sport, most Filipino fighters are switching over to the MMA game since it's the "IN" thing now a days.

                  now that's just the basic part. the next problem is you have to make a noise in the Philippines first fighting countless bums and corrupt people who handles other fighters. then when you get a name in the Philippines you have to conquer other third world bums trying to make name for themselves too. And by chance that you're really lucky then you'd fight the champions of upper Asian countries. when you are able to do that as a very very poor boxer who came from nothing just like Pacquiao did, then you get the chance to enter USA. but hold your horses before you do that you gotta apply for a visa etc etc and then try to get someone to like you in the USA to train you.

                  then the next problem comes when you're in the USA. it's that time when you are in the land of dreams that it'll be hard for you to fight somebody because to the american fans and fighters you're nobody but a bum from a third world country saying you fought WHO? you get labeled as fighting tomato cans and then you'll be fed to them mexicans. if ever you make it to the battle with the mexicans here's the part that hurts..........

                  of course it will be known in your country that you are now in the USA somehow making some $$$$. now the government (**** them i hope they all die) who never even ****ing supported you and all the people who tried to play you because you don't know shyt will dry you out. all your poor families would be begging you and you can't say no. then once you don't have anymore to give they will **** you up big time.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
                    When you consider how massive a population there is as well as that boxing has always been rather popular in Philippines you'd expect to see Mexico or Japan levels of success.




                    In terms of production of world class fighters IMO it would be something like this:

                    Tier 1: United States, Mexico
                    Tier 2: Japan, United Kingdom
                    Tier 3: Ukraine, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Cuba
                    Tier 4: Russia, Argentina, France, Canada, Thailand

                    I tried to weigh based on current success combined with historical relevance and success.
                    Great post and analysis! Green sent.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Nooblet View Post
                      as a Filipino i would like to let the people here know that there are a lot of talents in boxing in the Philippines. However, the big problem is getting a good management team or any type of organization who would invest or take care of the poor boxers in the country. they get no support that they just tend to switch to other job or career in life. the lucky ones are either managed by a foreigner who has money to invest in this business. Filipinos are a sucker for the "IN" thing. if boxing ain't trending no one cares. just like now that Pacquiao is about to leave the sport, most Filipino fighters are switching over to the MMA game since it's the "IN" thing now a days.

                      now that's just the basic part. the next problem is you have to make a noise in the Philippines first fighting countless bums and corrupt people who handles other fighters. then when you get a name in the Philippines you have to conquer other third world bums trying to make name for themselves too. And by chance that you're really lucky then you'd fight the champions of upper Asian countries. when you are able to do that as a very very poor boxer who came from nothing just like Pacquiao did, then you get the chance to enter USA. but hold your horses before you do that you gotta apply for a visa etc etc and then try to get someone to like you in the USA to train you.

                      then the next problem comes when you're in the USA. it's that time when you are in the land of dreams that it'll be hard for you to fight somebody because to the american fans and fighters you're nobody but a bum from a third world country saying you fought WHO? you get labeled as fighting tomato cans and then you'll be fed to them mexicans. if ever you make it to the battle with the mexicans here's the part that hurts..........

                      of course it will be known in your country that you are now in the USA somehow making some $$$$. now the government (**** them i hope they all die) who never even ****ing supported you and all the people who tried to play you because you don't know shyt will dry you out. all your poor families would be begging you and you can't say no. then once you don't have anymore to give they will **** you up big time.
                      Damn… Any chance you may be eluding to Manny in the last paragraph? I hope things don't end up that way for him. We gotta see more ambassadors of the sweet science prosper AFTER boxing.

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