Comments Thread For: Fighting Words - Hopkins-Shumenov: Mismatch Master Class

[Russian Crushin]

Kovacs was the undefeated WBO European light heavyweight Champion. He had never been knocked down before. Shumenov had not bean tested against a top level boxer before...true. I said he does not have the skills and lacks any training at all other than his own self trained methods. But I still see a guy who can punch and given the chance Hopkins could not take him out. Throughout his short amateur and pro career he has KO'd quite a few of his opponents...mostly early in the fights.

But don't get me wrong...I bet 100 billion points on Hopkins to win.

Kovacs has never even beaten a top 200 LHW.

Shumenov has never even beaten a top 50 LHW and got his ass kicked 2X by a soft chinned Campillo. He's terrible, his claim to fame is getting one of the worst robbery wins ever against Shumenov. He sucks

[giacomino]

Kovacs was the undefeated WBO European light heavyweight Champion. He had never been knocked down before. Shumenov had not bean tested against a top level boxer before...true. I said he does not have the skills and lacks any training at all other than his own self trained methods. But I still see a guy who can punch and given the chance Hopkins could not take him out. Throughout his short amateur and pro career he has KO'd quite a few of his opponents...mostly early in the fights.

But don't get me wrong...I bet 100 billion points on Hopkins to win.

Wasn't criticizing your basic thesis, but Kovacs was a cupcake with a blown up record who would have been KO'd by anyone in the top 20. He won his fake "title" by winning a split decision over an opponent who has since been KO'd five times. Lots of fighters who never fought anybody haven't been knocked down. Shumenov was a fraud belt holder who wouldn't beat any of the other belt holders, except maybe the equally fraudulent Braehmer, who would never fight Shumenov because he fears live opponents

[giacomino]

Kovacs has never even beaten a top 200 LHW.

Shumenov has never even beaten a top 50 LHW and got his ass kicked 2X by a soft chinned Campillo. He's terrible, his claim to fame is getting one of the worst robbery wins ever against Shumenov. He sucks

Si seņor. Should be the final word

[Concord76]

Hopkins, the trickster

Bernard Hopkins' real talent, although a talented boxer, is fooling the average boxing fans and general sports fans into thinking every fighter he fights is an elite opponent and that every victory over them is a great one. Any talented fighter can fight until he is 50 when they never put themselves in a dangerous fight for the majority of their career. Hopkins real talent, although not lately, is fighting name opponents, namely washed up former champions from lower weight classes. He hasn't fought an elite fighter since he fought the aging Calzaghe six years ago, and he lost...to a white guy. If you look at the list of fighters on his twenty alphabet title defenses at middleweight, besides Felix Trinidad there is no worthy middleweight contender on that list, and no, Oscar De La Hoya was not a worthy middleweight contender. And remember, Hopkins fought in the era when Toney, McCallum, Jackson, Benn, Eubank, McClellan, Collins and Reggie Johnson were all active at middleweight and super middleweight and yet he chose not to fight any of them. Instead he fought Robert Allen three times, Antwun Echols twice, and shamefully fighting the shell of former welterweight champion Simon Brown. I give Hopkins credit for fighting Jones jr,(the first time) Trinidad and Taylor. But I can in no way see that he is an all time great.