Did marquez KO proved his better than pac?

[A-Wolf]

Nobody dis*****g Marquez great skills. It just sometimes it doesn't work against certain fighters. It worked on Pac but it doesn't mean he is better overall.

You're looking at the title. I'm responding to the poll question.

[straightleft]

Does the KO victory Marquez has over Pacquaio proves he is the better fighter? Of course not. However the 4 times Marquez defeated Pacquiao proves he is the far superior fighter.

Well you are right. Marquez is undefeated. All his losses were robberies.

[Strategic1]

The truth is... NO.

The 1st 2 fights between them are the best showcases of their matchup. They were both closest to their primes and both closest to their best weight class. Especially in the 2nd fight.

Any objective fan would agree.

The PAC in the 3rd fight had already faced bigger fighters like Margarito and Clottey. Those 2 fights took A LOT out of PAC. He wasn't the same after the Margarito fight. Any slight decrease in speed and reaction time, allowed JMM to time him better.

I think in terms of skills, they are pretty much even. However, Marquez and his camp managed his career kind of strange at times. So it seems, PAC has the better resume. Also, PAC's speed, offensive oriented skillset, allowed him to beat guys in heavier divisions moreso.

But if you look at their skill set, they are even. If JMM was that much of a better boxer, he would have clearly beaten PAC in the 1st 3 fights. But that didn't happen. They fought to close decisions every time.

[Fighting_Pride]

pacquiao knocked himself out. he relied too much on his jab-staight combo and threw strategy out the window. not to mention the peds heredia gave marquez.


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[Tay Roc]

So why he didn't look genuis against Barrera and Bradley. In fact it was Pac looks genius against these two. Sytles make fight and Marquez style will always give a problem this reckless Pac but it doesn't mean he is more skilled. If they fight again for the 5th time Marquez will be surprised Pac is not there to be countered anymore and he knows this.

JMM sparks a tentative and cracked chin in the 5th fight. JMM ruined pac. Gave him boxing lessons each time they fought.

As far as Barrera fight, that was an awesome fight against two legends.

The Bradley fight, Marquez was outboxed and Bradley had a brilliant performance. He also didn't injure his legs

[Strategic1]

JMM sparks a tentative and cracked chin in the 5th fight. JMM ruined pac. Gave him boxing lessons each time they fought.

As far as Barrera fight, that was an awesome fight against two legends.

The Bradley fight, Marquez was outboxed and Bradley had a brilliant performance. He also didn't injure his legs

PAC just beat a top 5 p4p guy (twice). The same guy who beat JMM. JMM didn't ruin PAC.

Some of u JMM fans are so attached to ktfo6 that you've become almost delusional. That's why you bring it up everyday. PAC beat a former junior welter titlist in Rios and then Bradley. He is not done. Though he is indeed past prime. But has been for a while.

[straightleft]

JMM sparks a tentative and cracked chin in the 5th fight. JMM ruined pac. Gave him boxing lessons each time they fought.

As far as Barrera fight, that was an awesome fight against two legends.

The Bradley fight, Marquez was outboxed and Bradley had a brilliant performance. He also didn't injure his legs

Marquez Memo powered punch didn't ruin Pac. In fact, it made him a better boxer. Pac just beat a top 3 p4p fighter who made Marquez looks like less than ordinary although he cried and claimed it was a robbery. So it must be true.

[mneronava2k]

marquez went to war againts fighters that pac would have out class

katsidis
diaz

i mean if u say marquez is more skilled why cant he beat fighters like miguel cotto , oscar de la hoya even in fantasy fights

"Even in fantasy fights"
Maybe the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. And I'm trying to wrap my head around the debate in this thread.

Probably important to point out that boxing is a sport. And the object of the "game" is to beat up your opponent until they can no longer or finish (or control the other fighter). So, is marquez "better"?

Do the math

It doesn't mean manny isn't the superior athlete, but the object of the "game" is to win... That's why they fight.

[Tay Roc]

PAC just beat a top 5 p4p guy (twice). The same guy who beat JMM. JMM didn't ruin PAC.

Some of u JMM fans are so attached to ktfo6 that you've become almost delusional. That's why you bring it up everyday. PAC beat a former junior welter titlist in Rios and then Bradley. He is not done. Though he is indeed past prime. But has been for a while.

I don't bring it up everyday, I just call it like I see it.

Pac is visibly different since the KO. I'm not trying to disparage his wins over bradley; I agree he beat a top 3 P4P guy. Still, to say that pac is going to somehow "outbox" JMM when he hasn't shown he in capable of doing it, especially in the last two fights, is delusional. Pac's only advantages have dissipated. JMM is also not the same fighter he once was (as displayed in the Bradley fight), but I think he has a little bit more left in the tank than Pac. I don't think Pac's "new" style will be effective against JMM's counterpunching. Like you said, styles make fights, and JMM's style has always been all wrong for Pac. The "revitalized" pac gets sparked.

[Strategic1]

I don't bring it up everyday, I just call it like I see it.

Pac is visibly different since the KO.

I wasn't referring to you specifically. But some JMM fans in general. Everyday, someone has to bring it up. lol ..I don't really care personally. It's just kinda funny, especially after PAC just winning. It's like they're trying to keep the focus on ko6 when in reality, that was 2 years ago. Time passed, PAC and JMM moved on. JMM lost to Bradley, PAC beat Rios and Bradley. And now JMM is getting ready for Alvarado.

PAC has been visibily been different since the Margarito/Mosley fights. That's the truth.