Bradley's step back counter right vs. PBF's pull counter.

[Larry the boss]

And the pull counter would not be used with Manny because Manny doesn't really throw a jab. Floyd would just jab more and use lead rights

[Carpe Diem]

And the pull counter would not be used with Manny because Manny doesn't really throw a jab. Floyd would just jab more and use lead rights

He still wouldn't use the pull counter against Manny. He always counter over a southpaw's right jab with his own left jab over the top or a long angle left hook counter over the jab. Sometimes he'll parry or touch their right jab, then throw the straight right counter. But he doesn't use the pull counter against southpaws.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

He still wouldn't use the pull counter against Manny. He always counter over a southpaw's right jab with his own left jab over the top or a long angle left hook counter over the jab. Sometimes he'll parry or touch their right jab, then throw the straight right counter. But he doesn't use the pull counter against southpaws.

i see the Bobcats taking you guys to 7...should be fun

[Squared_Circle]

How effective is the pullcounter to a southpaw that rarely jabs?
Can Floyd also use the pullcounter when he is using a high guard?

High guard is the easiest way to throw it, you can touch the incoming while positioning for the counter.
But I feel what you saying, you're assuming the poster doesn't know Floyd don't use the roll on lefties.
But the PC flows well on south paws in the high guard, but you gotta be sure that left ain't coming LOL

[Carpe Diem]

i see the Bobcats taking you guys to 7...should be fun

And I'll win the next mega lotto. This will easily be the easiest series to predict in the playoffs, 4-0 Heat. Who do you think will come out of the West?

[King of Sting]

Some of you don't get it. I see PBF's version of the pullcounter working against PAC. PBF may not necessarily counter with an over-hand or a straight punch, but, that body and that chin is exposed once PAC is fully extended with his left hand, that chin and ribs are asking for it!

[daggum]

Judah doesnt lunge in,and Floyd did take his straight left away after the 4th or 5th round

floyds defense against the left was so sh-it that he had to abandon it and adopt a high guard. when that happened zab was like oh no what do i do and gave up. we know pac destroys high guard fighters with pure volume so floyd really has no options. its either get hit with his leaky defense or go high guard and hope pac just stands there not throwign punches like dumb judah.

[Carpe Diem]

floyds defense against the left was so sh-it that he had to abandon it and adopt a high guard. when that happened zab was like oh no what do i do and gave up. we know pac destroys high guard fighters with pure volume so floyd really has no options. its either get hit with his leaky defense or go high guard and hope pac just stands there not throwign punches like dumb judah.

Actually, it's the other way around. The few times he got caught flush by the straight left was when he utilized the high guard defense, he hasn't constantly utilized the high guard defense since that fight. When he adjusted with his usual Philly shell side-shoulder defense, that's when he was able to systematically walked Judah down and had an easier time countering over Judah's jab and offset his offense with the lead straight right, etc. He has fought better against southpaws without the high guard defense since then.

[Larry the boss]

floyds defense against the left was so sh-it that he had to abandon it and adopt a high guard. when that happened zab was like oh no what do i do and gave up. we know pac destroys high guard fighters with pure volume so floyd really has no options. its either get hit with his leaky defense or go high guard and hope pac just stands there not throwign punches like dumb judah.

you just contradicted yourself..you said his defense against the left was **** BUT HE ADJUSTED AND ZAB HAD NOTHING!!!...lets kill this southpaw myth..what southpaw has beaten floyd and which one did he not adjust against?

[LoadedWraps]

Tim made one adjustment for the rematch, he waited for PAC to throw his left and then stepped back and countered with the right straight, an overhand or one to the body. I thought it was effective, he just didn't do enough.

Having seen Bradley with that type of success to PAC's demonic left. I think PBF's famous pullcounter will definitely hit the mark way more. PAC's bad habit of overextending himself has not been corrected to this day, with PBF's longer reach and the most accurate puncher in the game, PBF will be countering that left with pull counter's to the head and body.

Floyds pull counter and its not really close, I love Bradley but his counters standing alone are no comparison for Floyds pull counter. Silly question.