Who is MORE Past Prime? Floyd or Manny?

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  • sugarsmosley
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    #21
    Originally posted by #1Assassin
    floyd has declined more physically, but he is so much smarter and more skilled he knows how to hide it. ****, BHop has for over a decade.

    floyd and BHop are throwbacks though, they know how to fight from A to Z. learned from the ground up and spent their lives honing their craft and adding new skills to their arsenal. while doing so they developed a tremendous understanding of the game.

    pac is a tough little dude with a great work ethic and loads of talent. but when you start getting up there in age you cant rely on talent no more, you have to be smart. dont get me wrong pac is no margarito, but he is no mayweather either. hence his physical limitations compared to his prime are more visible.
    great post m8!! greenk worthy

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    • cameltoe
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      #22
      Yeah ****** question- Floyd appears to be getting better with age. Maybe he's lost half a step in speed, but he's perfected his style these past few years.

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      • pinpointsman
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        #23
        Pacquiao has gotten smaller and has been less active with throwing punches since Ariza left.
        Mayweather hasn't been prime since he broke his hand 10-14 years ago. Mayweather also can't explode on clear openings with combinations as in his youth.

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        • Rossman
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          #24
          They both are a little past it.

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          • mrlopez
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            #25
            Originally posted by Ragnar Lothbrok
            Floyd is older by a couple of years or so but Pacquiao has had more ring wars, more fights, more rounds, more sparring than floyd I think its quite clear both are past their primes in my eyes Pacquiao clearly has lost punch output and aggression that he used to have from Morales 1 up to the Margarito fight while floyd has lost a lot of his foot movement that he used to have at from his 135-140 early 147 days and stands more in the pocket.

            Who is more past it? Who is the fresher fighter come fight night if the two ever meet? Will Floyd suffer damage in the Maidana fight?
            you answered your own question.

            floyd is actually a year older than pac, BUT pac started boxing professionaly at 16 where as floyd didnt until 19

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            • Ragnar Lothbrok
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              #26
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Ring wars yes, but that's stylistic matters. The rest, no he really hasn't. Pac skipped amateurs, Floyd fought 90 amateur fights. While Pac was fighting 4-6-8 round fights, Floyd was also fighting 4 round fights. Floyd's 90 amateur fights + 45 pro fights even it out with Pac 63 pro fights.
              that's an awesome rationalization.

              Originally posted by DJFury
              Pac was 60-4 in the amateurs. He made it to the Philippine national amateur boxing team.
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              Originally posted by #1Assassin
              floyd has declined more physically, but he is so much smarter and more skilled he knows how to hide it. ****, BHop has for over a decade.

              floyd and BHop are throwbacks though, they know how to fight from A to Z. learned from the ground up and spent their lives honing their craft and adding new skills to their arsenal. while doing so they developed a tremendous understanding of the game.

              pac is a tough little dude with a great work ethic and loads of talent. but when you start getting up there in age you cant rely on talent no more, you have to be smart. dont get me wrong pac is no margarito, but he is no mayweather either. hence his physical limitations compared to his prime are more visible.
              interesting point of view.

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