Roach admits it was pacquiao's fault the mayweather fight never happened...

[Godsfly]

I don't see anything revealing about what Roach said. In hindsight, maybe Team Pacquaio should have just agreed to the demands from Mayweather. At the time, Pacquiao was on top of the world and they didn't feel they needed to jump through hoops for anyone. Hindsight is 20/20.

Whether them agreeing to the testing in 2010 would have made the fight happen....I don't believe so and recent history has added credence to my view.

this is the part where you're totally wrong...........pac made the demands first (let us remember that) for each pound you come in overweight it's 6 million dollars (that was in the contract) mayweather agreed but he was pissed. so he said "simple blood & urine test" throwing out his own demand in which manny quickly disagreed with.............why make a demand if you wasn't open to accepting another demand? (to me a drug test isn't even a demand) and the fight was DONE. the testing would have signed sealed delivered the fight. pac & his team really messed it up the first go...........which roach is trying to explain to you.

[V.WEBB]

It's like a knitting circle in here. I'll let you girls get back to it.

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[sugarsmosley]

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fsu shouldve lost that fuggin game

auburn all day baby

[radioraheem]

Why? The continuous failed negotiations built the profile of both fighters separately so they could milk the public with dud fights under the pretence that they were eventually going to fight each other.

If they fought in 2010, a loss for either would have been pretty devastating.

Again. These are smart businessmen. They wouldn't even entertain negotiations in the first place if both sides didn't want the fight. And in 2010, the US was going through it's worst economic recession in decades, the future was not clear. So if you had legit business matters on the table, you better actively try to do something about it. Intentionally waiting would be quite risky.

But you so stubbornly want to believe that it was all intentional, on some conspiracy theory bull****.

[V.WEBB]

fsu shouldve lost that fuggin game

auburn all day baby

Dude, hell of a game!

How will they look this coming season? Losing alot of players?

[maguirre]

Same old same old recycled garbage. hehe...

[maguirre]

So Roach is saying he blames Pac. So? What's the big fuss?

I myself blame Pac for not calling the duck's bluff from the very beginning. Money Mayweather would have been exposed early. Look at all these silly debates. I blame Pacman for this.

Things change. Mistakes were made. Pacman made a mistake of reinforcing the duck's tactic of geting out of the fight.

Pacman tried in the second negotiation. By that time Money Mayweather was found to be a cowering child. Not a mature, courageous, normal adult who anyone can deal with normally.

And these cult members are telling us he is not a duck. Hehe...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

this is the part where you're totally wrong...........pac made the demands first (let us remember that) for each pound you come in overweight it's 6 million dollars (that was in the contract) mayweather agreed but he was pissed. so he said "simple blood & urine test" throwing out his own demand in which manny quickly disagreed with.............why make a demand if you wasn't open to accepting another demand? (to me a drug test isn't even a demand) and the fight was DONE. the testing would have signed sealed delivered the fight. pac & his team really messed it up the first go...........which roach is trying to explain to you.

Mayweather missed weight in his previous fight against Marquez. There was some evidence and logic behind the idea that he should be fined if he came overweight.

The drug testing issue was all born out of unfounded accusations made by the Mayweather camp who shamelessly did everything to tarnish Pacquaio's reputation out of sheer jealousy. The drug testing is a facade anyway. Mayweather doesn't do Olympic Style testing. You guys keep swallowing this though.

Drug testing and the fight was DONE.....yeah that's what everyone kept saying until Floyd pulled the next roadblock out his arse and the next one and the next one.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

400+ post came out of roach saying it was pac and arums fault also??????? roach said it himself just let it go

[V.WEBB]

Mayweather missed weight in his previous fight against Marquez. There was some evidence and logic behind the idea that he should be fined if he came overweight.

He had never missed 147 pounds, though. But even then, no issue, it was accepted.

The drug testing issue was all born out of unfounded accusations made by the Mayweather camp who shamelessly did everything to tarnish Pacquaio's reputation out of sheer jealousy. The drug testing is a facade anyway. Mayweather doesn't do Olympic Style testing. You guys keep swallowing this though.

No one stateside had done it. And Floyd and Manny were not going to do 365 days or random testing. Why? Because they were negotiating a fight that would take place in a 4 month time span. But, it was a start. Manny and his team liked it at first. Had his trainer talking tough about how he would pass ANY test. Then..... their minds changed. Hmmmmmm

Drug testing and the fight was DONE.....yeah that's what everyone kept saying until Floyd pulled the next roadblock out his arse and the next one and the next one.

It literally was until Manny wanted a MONTH with no testing. Manny suddenly became weak when his blood was drawn, he was superstitous, etc. 30 whole days, then it all hit the fan and had to be taken to mediation. And there, Manny rejected a 14 day offer of no testing and fights Josh Clottey. But apparently, Manny is in the clear here, it's the other guy's fault.