Roach admits it was pacquiao's fault the mayweather fight never happened...

[big_james10]

Paraphrasing:

"I want the mayweather fight....I just need manny to see what I see" - freddie roach


Has said it on more than one occasion. What's the logical implication of this statement?

I could go on further and mention that the two most credible.negotiations were instigated by team mayweather. I could also go on about the ridiculous behaviour of manny pac and his team in 2010 ie blood.draining, bruising, needle phobia (despite the tatts) etc etc. Then I could go on about their ridiculous behaviour the second time around, building stadiums, cuts needing.6 months to heal, bob not knowing who to call to negotiate the fight. The real kicker, scheduking a fight for your man in may tginking the other guy is going inside and then when he get's a postponement, suddenly your guy can't fight on that date.

Bob arum and mp have never negotiated this fight in good faith whatsoever. In fact their excuses arenot only contradictory.but incredibly lame and comical.

Good post. Unfortunately, you will be in the red by the end of the day because you dare to tell the truth.

[Jcsuper]

After all these years Freddie Roach is finally starting to admit what I always knew.

Ariza was shady (Floyd was right to ask for testing)
And that it was Manny's fault for turning down the fight when it was first offered years ago.

After years of calling Floyd a coward now he admits the truth.

May agreed to 50/50 (which is what Manny has always wanted)
May agreed to a 14 day cut off (Manny is now doing random testing with no cut off date)
May agreed to 10 million per pound over the weight limit (Weight wasn't an issue)
They both agreed to fight at the MGM ( no need for Bobs new ****** stadium)

Pac fans want to bring up how years later Manny changed his stance on the % split and drug testing but.......It doesn't change the fact that this fight could have happened.

It's was ok for Manny to turn it down according to his fans who all were on this site siding with Manny. They all said that Pac shouldn't agree to Mays terms.
But now........Floyd is a coward because he has moved on with his career.

Floyd also came back to the table with a 40 million offer years later and got turned down again.
What happened with Pacs fans after that 40 million offer? They agreed again with Manny
and said Floyd should give Manny a % of the PPV.

My question to Manny fans is this......

Why is it ok for Manny to turn down the fight? (and not be called a coward)
Why is it when Floyd turned down the fight? (he was called a coward)
Why is ok for Manny to require his opponent to do drug testing? ( and be called smart)
Why is it when Floyd asked for testing? (he got killed for saying health comes first)
Why is it bad that Floyd guaranteed 40 million to Pac? (which is more than fair)
Why is it ok for Bob to only guarantee Pac 6 million (and fans say nothing)

and youll never get any answer from a *******

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Nevertheless when it came time to negotiate, he conceded.

Of course he did. Did he sign anything?

[sugarsmosley]

and youll never get any answer from a *******

can i try to make it in ur sig, ill say something crazier then those quotes

[The Raw Dog]

lol the hate for manny is unreal, almost kind of scary how many dudes viciously hate this guy.

bullet proof vests need to be handed to all pac fans here, because the bullets are flying everywhere

No one HATES Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao fans empowered Bob Arum to do what he did to Mannys career. Blind loyalty isn't the best trait in fans of boxing.

[HAY-B]

Zab Judah, upon hearing Floyd's testing demands, "That's the dumbest **** I've ever heard."

I could hear the same sentiment felt quietly by people like Holmes, Hagler, Foreman, RJJ, SRL, Holyfield, Tyson, Corley, and many others. And these folks are boxers. They're also blacks. How are you going to convince these guys that Floyd didn't duck Pacquiao? It's impossible. It's not like these are Pak tards.. lol

you do know that Tyson's camp accused holyfield of being on roids and asked for blood testing when they were negotiating prior to Tyson going to jail.

[Jcsuper]

can i try to make it in ur sig, ill say something crazier then those quotes

You can try, but it's really hard to make it. I only reserve this honor to the most ******ed posters on boxingscene.

[Brandish]

Of course he did. Did he sign anything?

how could he sign anything when manny ran from random drug testing. you can't be that dumb to ask that question.

[ADP02]

Because Pacquiao went on to do 700k vs Clottey while Floyd did 1.4 against Mosley. Wouldn't at that point 66-33 be a reasonable offer from Floyd? The other guy does half your numbers and you're supposed to still give him 50-50?

By your logic, Manny should of offered what to Floyd in the first negotiations then? Floyd just didn't want to fight Manny. If you believe Roach well, he also said that Floyd doesn't want to risk losing his precious "0"

Manny vs Cotto
Fight generated 1.25 million buys 70 million dollars in domestic pay-per-view revenue
Live gate of $8,847,550 from an official crowd of 15,930
Pacquiao earned around 22 million dollars
Cotto earned around 12 million dollars


Floyd vs Marquez
1,000,000 PPV buys generating over $52 million in sales
Juan Manuel Márquez made a guaranteed $3.2 million (+ $600,000 due to Floyd coming in two pounds over the 144 lbs weight limit.)
Floyd Mayweather earned $10.0 million.

[Brandish]

By your logic, Manny should of offered what to Floyd in the first negotiations then? Floyd just didn't want to fight Manny. If you believe Roach well, he also said that Floyd doesn't want to risk losing his precious "0"

Manny vs Cotto
Fight generated 1.25 million buys 70 million dollars in domestic pay-per-view revenue
Live gate of $8,847,550 from an official crowd of 15,930
Pacquiao earned around 22 million dollars
Cotto earned around 12 million dollars


Floyd vs Marquez
1,000,000 PPV buys generating over $52 million in sales
Juan Manuel Márquez made a guaranteed $3.2 million (+ $600,000 due to Floyd coming in two pounds over the 144 lbs weight limit.)
Floyd Mayweather earned $10.0 million.

floyd has generated 756,000,000 in revenue pac 616,000,000


floyd is the A-side manny is the B-side

simple enough for you