Floyd is clearly on PEDs.

[Larry the boss]

Facts, Floyd doesn't do random testing.


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Then neither does Manny..so go accuse him as well

[jcpryor]

You mean USADA, the one Floyd choice of testing keep the result under the rug!!!

That's interesting... go on....:LOL:

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about lol. Lance Armstrong's blood samples were covered up by UCI, not usada. Usada is the organization that brought forth the evidence that proved that he DID test positive. They didn't sweep anything "under the rug".

[-MARKAVELLI-]

Then neither does Manny..so go accuse him as well

Frauds family was the one started this why dragged other people on their worthless crusades!

The fact is, if you what to start making a statement... do it right!!!:crybaby:

[D4thincarnation]

Who would you say has been tested more since 09 - Floyd or Manny? Which one of these two people have had issues in the past submitting to drug testing, and which one voluntarily asked for it?

Because Pacquiao has been continously fighting, where he's been under constant testing, where if he took some powerful illegal PEDs they would show up in a NSAC anti-doping test.


Floyd on the other hand could take any ****tail of powerful illegal PEDs on his vacations and they could clear his system in 9 months.


It it no coincidence that Floyd changed most dramatically during his two long vacations from any testing what so ever.

[craigus1990]

I am a man of science and like to stick to facts and observations to build my view on things. Now I do not believe Floyd is/was taking anything illegal in the sport of boxing... that doesn't of course mean he isn't, it just means with the available facts and observations to be made, nothing indicates he is using.

Floyd has been doing 'random' testing for 5 fights (6 soon) and has yet to fail a drugs test (both from USADA and NSAC).
People may argue these tests are not truly random as they are only when training for a fight however this argument only holds weight if we assume that Floyd is then taking PEDs when he is not training for a fight so he is not caught by the tests. This means he must be training his hardest when he is not training for a fight (in order to benefit from them) and cycling off them when he is training for a fight (this to me sounds incredibly inefficient as he would only get training benefits from the PEDs months before fight night). Now all we have to do is look at the evidence of his physique when he hasn't been training for a fight to see that he is clearly in better shape after a training camp than he is before/during (look at his physique in the Guerrero/Canelo/Maidana green screen filming before the fight and he doesn't look in super condition compared to how he looks on fight night/weigh in). So why take PEDs before a training camp and not get into peak condition using them? It all seems rather pointless taking them in the first place. Other people seem to argue that he cycles off PEDs during his off time (in between fights), which would mean he takes PEDs when in training camp (which makes the most sense as this would give him the most benefits) but this (with the available evidence) is untrue due to him passing all random tests within camp. So whichever way round you wish to say he is cycling off and using.... neither argument seems to hold up with the available evidence.

In conclusion, there doesn't seem to be enough incriminating evidence to say that he is a PED user, so be su****ious if you please.... but don't pretend you are being reasonable in your assertions.

Side note.... anyone mentioning Lance Armstrong.... you are aware the people who filed a suit and caught Armstrong after building up a solid case for years that forced him into admitting he was using was USADA? The same guys who test Floyd.

[jcpryor]

Because Pacquiao has been continously fighting, where he's been under constant testing, where if he took some powerful illegal PEDs they would show up in a NSAC anti-doping test.


Floyd on the other hand could take any ****tail of powerful illegal PEDs on his vacations and they could clear his system in 9 months.


It it no coincidence that Floyd changed most dramatically during his two long vacations from any testing what so ever.

so you arent going to answer the question? I'm talking about blood tests.

[way2strong]

on the case of TRT lamont peterson never tested positive while using USADA because he uses it at a small dosage but when VADA was called in for his fight he tested dirty ...

[Xi_]

you know whats funny? pac decided to use vada when he fought rios(ariza) but then decided not to use vada even after rios got caught and after he got back with fortune.

[Outwest Exp 355]

on the case of TRT lamont peterson never tested positive while using USADA because he uses it at a small dosage but when VADA was called in for his fight he tested dirty ...

When was Lamont ever tested by USADA?

[D4thincarnation]

so you arent going to answer the question? I'm talking about blood tests.

Blood testing has caught zero cheats in boxing, urine tests catch 100s.

The fact is Floyd could have taken the most powerful illegal PEDs and not have it show up in his tests.

Pacquiao couldn't.

Your points are irrelevant.