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  • #31
    First fight was close, rightfully ruled a draw.
    Second fight was close as well and could have been anybody's win. I personally had it for Marquez.
    Marquez thoroughly outboxed him in the third match and was horribly robbed.
    JMM then KO'd Pacquiao viciously in the fourth.

    See a pattern here? Marquez just kept getting better as the series went on. I mean when you lay a guy flat out unconscious for a few minutes in the ring, what else is there to prove?

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    • #32
      Why on earth would anyone want to ruin that ending in the 4th fight with another fight? It's like when Vazquez and Rafael Marquez fought a 4th fight after the brilliant end to the 3rd.

      Besides, how are people not sick of Pac/Marquez by now?

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      • #33
        Marquez should end his career by beating Erik Morales.

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        • #34
          Marquez will probably fight ruslan.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by swagswag View Post
            The fight won't happen because there is no reason for Marquez to fight him for a fifth time.
            Theres 6+ million reasons why it will probably happen.

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            • #36
              It depends on who wins Marquez or Alvarado

              it's really hard to tell right now. If Marquez wins his upcoming fight against Alvarado then i believe it will happen. If Marquez feels confident in himself i doubt he will let the belt Pacquaio has now slip away from him.

              I don't see him winning it though. Marquez has been slipping for these past few fights and looks very slow right now. I feel if he ever fought Pacquaio again that he might be in trouble and would only be able to rely on his timing and straight right hand.

              I believe Manny will cautiously outwork him this time. His foot movement and speed are still there, despite the slight decline in speed and power i feel Pacquaio still got it. He's just transcended into a different fighter, a boxer puncher to be exact.

              This is what people fail to see. Pacquaio once was a heavy handed brawler. Since campaigning at welterweight, especially 147lbs his punches don't seem to have the same effect on his opponents as they used to. Let's not forget! Manny was always the smaller fighter but always found ways to win and that's the true definition of a champion. Dig down deep and find ways to win. And Pacquaio is doing exactly that by using his foot speed and ring intelligence.

              And honestly i don't feel there is a need for a fifth fight with Marquez but i would love to see Pacquaio get revenge. A knockout could happen to any fighter, anytime, anywhere. It doesn't define who a fighter is.

              And since that ko loss, people have been expecting too much of him. Do we always need knockouts? No we don't, it's fun and does make it exciting but so does a good tactical decision victory.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dezstroyer View Post
                it's really hard to tell right now. If Marquez wins his upcoming fight against Alvarado then i believe it will happen. If Marquez feels confident in himself i doubt he will let the belt Pacquaio has now slip away from him.

                I don't see him winning it though. Marquez has been slipping for these past few fights and looks very slow right now. I feel if he ever fought Pacquaio again that he might be in trouble and would only be able to rely on his timing and straight right hand.

                I believe Manny will cautiously outwork him this time. His foot movement and speed are still there, despite the slight decline in speed and power i feel Pacquaio still got it. He's just transcended into a different fighter, a boxer puncher to be exact.

                This is what people fail to see. Pacquaio once was a heavy handed brawler. Since campaigning at welterweight, especially 147lbs his punches don't seem to have the same effect on his opponents as they used to. Let's not forget! Manny was always the smaller fighter but always found ways to win and that's the true definition of a champion. Dig down deep and find ways to win. And Pacquaio is doing exactly that by using his foot speed and ring intelligence.

                And honestly i don't feel there is a need for a fifth fight with Marquez but i would love to see Pacquaio get revenge. A knockout could happen to any fighter, anytime, anywhere. It doesn't define who a fighter is.

                And since that ko loss, people have been expecting too much of him. Do we always need knockouts? No we don't, it's fun and does make it exciting but so does a good tactical decision victory.
                If there is a 5th fight, I think Pacquiao would get knocked out again because he will try to KO marquez to get revenge but doing that vs Marquez does not end well. I think Alvarado will beat Marquez and will go on to face Pacquiao, And Marquez will end up facing Ruslan.

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                • #38
                  I somehow believe Pacquaio would try to fight smarter. As Marquez has clearly lost a step i doubt if he will be able to win against Mike Alvarado. I believe Alvarado won't be coming into this fight being confident about going for a knockout knowing that Marquez is one of the best counterpunchers around. This fight is 50/50 as it all depends on how much pressure Alvarado applies and how well Marquez can counter him. But Alvarado can move on his feet. Not similar to Manny's feet movement but he can move pretty ok if he wants to but i believe Marquez can easily time his right hand on Alvarado but will he be able to hurt him? I doubt it. I think Alvarado can hurt Marquez as he is quite big himself.

                  As for Pacquaio beating Marquez? After that ko loss i better hope he learned his lesson. He can definitely outwork Marquez by carefully going after him in the early rounds to apply more pressure after the sixth once Marquez would start to tire and lose composure i could see him getting hurt from Pacquaio's shots as Marquez doesn't have the best chin in his division. I respect Marquez a lot though but as i see it right now i think the fight is 60/40 in favor of Manny. It could be a close decision also...

                  Pacquaio doesn't bring anything new to the table when it comes down to angles or thrown punches but he does bring something else and that's more composure and for a fighter like Marquez it could only benefit Pacquaio as Marquez is not known to be a high volume puncher. Manny will eventually try to draw him into a firefight and outwork Marquez to get a decision victory at the end of the 12th round.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dezstroyer View Post
                    I somehow believe Pacquaio would try to fight smarter. As Marquez has clearly lost a step i doubt if he will be able to win against Mike Alvarado. I believe Alvarado won't be coming into this fight being confident about going for a knockout knowing that Marquez is one of the best counterpunchers around. This fight is 50/50 as it all depends on how much pressure Alvarado applies and how well Marquez can counter him. But Alvarado can move on his feet. Not similar to Manny's feet movement but he can move pretty ok if he wants to but i believe Marquez can easily time his right hand on Alvarado but will he be able to hurt him? I doubt it. I think Alvarado can hurt Marquez as he is quite big himself.

                    As for Pacquaio beating Marquez? After that ko loss i better hope he learned his lesson. He can definitely outwork Marquez by carefully going after him in the early rounds to apply more pressure after the sixth once Marquez would start to tire and lose composure i could see him getting hurt from Pacquaio's shots as Marquez doesn't have the best chin in his division. I respect Marquez a lot though but as i see it right now i think the fight is 60/40 in favor of Manny. It could be a close decision also...

                    Pacquaio doesn't bring anything new to the table when it comes down to angles or thrown punches but he does bring something else and that's more composure and for a fighter like Marquez it could only benefit Pacquaio as Marquez is not known to be a high volume puncher. Manny will eventually try to draw him into a firefight and outwork Marquez to get a decision victory at the end of the 12th round.
                    The only way marquez would fight pacquiao for a fifth time is if the fight is in Mexico.

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                    • #40
                      Marquez crap himself once pa won the belt? No surprise

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