Comments Thread For: This just in, Arum’s Mayweather tirades are getting old

[nelenivy]

Oh shut up and Pac fought a weight drained Cotto, De La Hoya, and Margacheato. He fought an old Mosely after Mayweather fought him, fought Hatton after Mayweather TKO'd his ass. Mayweather Pursued a De La Hoya fight thats why he did not fight Margacheato. Mayweather would've beat the crap out of Casamayor. And Pac refused to take any OST tests after Mayweather agreed to all of Pac's demands even agreeing to pay $10million dollars if he came in overweight at the weigh-in.

About leftovers and weight drained
1. Pac fought weight drained Cotto - Mayweather fought weight drained Canelo. Also Canelo looked much more drained than Cotto.
2. ODLH and Mosley. They were already at their decline with Mayweather. They already had several losses. So why all Mayweather fans are so proud of these victories? Mayweather fans be like Floyd gave them their first losses. In my opinion victories over ODLH and Mosley aren't great achievment neither for Floyd nor for Pac. So stop talking about these fights.
3. Hatton. Hatton's first true loss was to Luis Collazo, who was bull****ed. So it wasn't Mayweather who gave Hatton his first defeat. Also let's remember that before Pacquiao fight Hatton won all the rounds and TKO'd Paulie Malignaggi. Hatton won Paulie Malignaggi way more convincingly than Cotto did. So, how can u say that Hatton wasn't at his prime with Manny?

About tests
Pac agreed to all tests. Then Floyd said that there hadn't been any negotiations, that he hadn't even thought about new fight.

[nelenivy]

Did you forget that Manny and Roach initially turned down the Mosley fight (claiming that Manny was too small). Yet they fought Mosley a year AFTER Mayweather beat him and after he drew with Sergio Mora. You are being hypocritical to the point of ******ity. Guerrero is Salido's leftovers? He has 2 losses and neither of which are to a guy named Salido. What did Rios do to earn a Manny fight? He lost is what he did. I could go on and on using the same stuff you did to accuse Manny but I won't do that for the sake of it having been said a million times about both fighters and their resumes.

1. Manny was really too small at that moment
2. Guerrero's first loss was to Orlando Salido at 57 kg
3. Rios has granite chin and always comes forward. Alvarado would box in survival mode after few rounds with Manny.

[Fetta]

Bobs a dinosaur and his prehistoric ways are done

[nelenivy]

That's exactly right. Pac's fans never call for Pac/Martinez or Pac/GGG because they know he'd get destroyed. Yet they claim that Mayweather has been ducking both, ignoring the fact that him and Pac share the SAME weight class. It's because they know that Manny doesn't have the skill to compete with bigger guys, like Mayweather does. That's why Floyd used JMM as a tune-up and Pac got put to sleep by a two year older version of Marquez. "Skills pay the bills".

Btw, it's funny how Arum hasn't mentioned Canelo as a potential opponent for Pac. Since Manny fought DLH, Hatton and Mosley after Floyd did, why not ask for Canelo @ the same catchweight Floyd fought him at? Knowing Arum and Freddy "I saw your last two fights" Roach's matchmaking checklist, Canelo would have to take a beating or get KO'd before they entertain the notion of fighting him.

The fact is, Mayweather is so dominate that people want to see him fight guys who outweigh him by 15-20lbs, just to give him a challenge. On the other hand, Pac can't beat a faded Marquez, and had issues landing clean on Bradley, who managed to injure himself during both fights.

So let's compare May and Pac resumes:
May :
noticeable fighters at their peak: Hernandez, Corrales, Castilo, Hatton, Canelo, Marquez,

Pac :
noticeable fighters at their peak: MAB, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Bradley

So Pac has two great fighters (MAB and Moralles) in their prime. Floyd has NO great fighters in prime shape in his resume. It's simple as that.

[48cantCstraight]

This thread is crazy. How do you f@ggots not get tired of b1tching back and forth about floyd and pac?

[hitking]

So let's compare May and Pac resumes:
May :
noticeable fighters at their peak: Hernandez, Corrales, Castilo, Hatton, Canelo, Marquez,

Pac :
noticeable fighters at their peak: MAB, Morales, Marquez, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Bradley

So Pac has two great fighters (MAB and Moralles) in their prime. Floyd has NO great fighters in prime shape in his resume. It's simple as that.

You do realize that Pac's trilogy with Morales was during a 1-5 streak for Erik. His lone win was against Pac. He was coming off a loss to Barrera in the first fight. He got completely outclassed by Zahir Raheem before the second Pac fight. And was promptly beaten soundly by David Diaz following the third fight with Pac. So you may wanna revisit that lil post of your's. Or at least reference boxrec before making an ass of yourself on here talking about **** you clearly have little to no knowledge

[MC Hammer]

None of those fights were on PPV, thats the whole point

And none of the undercard on May 3rd are anywhere near as competitive as the card on Pac-Bradley 2

Don't take my word for it, just look up the odds for the fights. These guys are experts when it comes to seeing missmatches and they have 2 different fights where the favorite is greater than a 10-1 which is a disgrace on PPV.

No one on the Pac undercard was greater than a 3 to 1

Only in boxing can you have "boxing fans" that don't wanna see the best fight the best

The original odds are made by bookies, they change based on bets. No one put together a fight at these odds it just turned to it based on betting. The only reason Pacs odds don't go as high is fans aren't as comfortable betting on him

[vortex662290]

well I'm tired of...

well mr. fitzsimmons I am tired of seeing articles written against anyone questioning Floyd's antics. So what, that is Bob's opinion you dont have to like it or hear it if you dont want to. Bob was right, writers like Kevin Iole and you are just looking for access. This article reflects someone who wastes his time writing about manners that simply dont matter to get something out of it.

[TrueBoxingFan23]

For those who can't understand, please read:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

Arum didn't want to give Floyd the megafight with Oscar, and even admitted his percentage would be too low, so it wasn't worth it. Floyd left and the rest is history. Manny should follow in Floyd's (Cotto/Marquez) footsteps. Leave Arum, get the megafight!

Thanks man!! That's all I needed to see!!!! Great article, some will read it and still deny it! PAC TARDS

[Dan Gutierrez]

The whole truth is...boxing fans all over the world are all excitedly waiting for this fight to happen. Boxing history can not be completely written if this fight won't happen. Floyd is a good fighter but the whole world won't consider him as one... unless he accept and fight the great fighter Manny Pacquiao.