Should Manny have Ariza back on team READ ENTIRE THREAD B4 voting

**thuggery** · 04-14-2014, 03:52 AM

Probably not, considering Ariza kicked Roach in the ****ing chest

**DJR005** · 04-14-2014, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by thuggery

Probably not, considering Ariza kicked Roach in the ****ing chest

I forgot to include in my thread that this all depends on Ariza manning up and making amend for being such a f***ing coward and kicking roach. Bc I think Ariza is a piece of **** but no denying he's good at what he does.

**thuggery** · 04-14-2014, 03:57 AM

Originally posted by DJR005

I forgot to include in my thread that this all depends on Ariza manning up and making amend for being such a f***ing coward and kicking roach. Bc I think Ariza is a piece of **** but no denying he's good at what he does.

I agree that he's good at what he does despite being a snake, but there's no chance of a make up between them. In fact I think just 2 days ago news broke that Ariza is suing Roach for defamation.

**FlatLine** · 04-14-2014, 04:13 AM

ariza wont make a difference.. i'll tell you why.. manny said he got leg cramps from round 3, in the post-fight press conf of the bradley rematch.. if you remember he was getting leg cramps for his last few fights with ariza too..

basically manny's getting older and his body's starting to cramp more when he's trying to pull off moves he used to in the past without difficulty.. the body can't endure it like it once could.. it's age not ariza because those legs were cramping when ariza was still part of team pac..

**DoubleMM** · 04-14-2014, 04:15 AM

this **** is hilarious

guys on here acting like women. it's a Strength and COnditioning coach. These guys all do the same **** pretty much. YOu act like they give someo guy random power with a secret workout.

and it's even more hilarious some people believe this cramp nonsense.

**Fighting_Pride** · 04-14-2014, 04:23 AM

pacquiao made ariza the conditioning trainer that he is today, not the other way around. pacquiao trains like hell in the gym. ariza has nothing others can't offer. pacquiao has lost a half step and has softened a little but that's due to age and the wars he's gone through, ariza is a piece of ****

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**hectari** · 04-14-2014, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by thuggery

Probably not, considering Ariza kicked Roach in the ****ing chest

^this.

I don't think Ariza will ever be back after that lol.

But Pacman needs a nutritionist more than a conditioning coach, recovery is the most important. This is what Ariza brought to the table he has a team behind him, Ariza has a sports scientist in teri tom at UCLA who provides the proper nutrition and diet plan for his fighters, she also approves and assigns the supplements like whey and vitamins, this is something that helps aid recovery especially as we aid.

Pacman doesn't have a nutritionist and Justin Fortune doesn;t have a sports science degree or nutritionist license like Ariza, so Fortune only knows how to train and doesn't know about the type of supplements to aid recovery and help stamina that Ariza and Teri Tom did.

Its kinda messed up because I think Cecilio flores would have been better for Manny, yet Fortune got pissed off that Cecilio tried to help. Cecilio even said that Pacman is older and doesn't need to train as hard because at his age he needs more recovery and the danger is overtraining which will lead to him fatiguing in the fight, and guess what Pac fatigued.

Fortune needs to realize Pac is not 25 anymore you can't push him like that at this stage you gotta pull back a little so he doesn't overtrain.

**FlatLine** · 04-14-2014, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by DoubleMM

this **** is hilarious

guys on here acting like women. it's a Strength and COnditioning coach. These guys all do the same **** pretty much. YOu act like they give someo guy random power with a secret workout.

and it's even more hilarious some people believe this cramp nonsense.

new to sports?

Muscle cramping is a common problem encountered by athletes and nonathletes alike.... Age also seems to predispose individuals to cramping--the phenomenon may develop later in life for people who exercise for years without prior problems...

Scientific American ^

**tank17211** · 04-14-2014, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by DJR005

As a fighter myself I must say: B4 I start this thread I am a die hard fan of 3 fighters of this generation:
1-Manny Pacquiao ( bc he is undoubtly the greatest fighter of 2000s)
2-Miguel Cotto ( I respect the hell out of a man who has NEVER ducked anyone and fights the best of best when he can, ie Manny, Sergio, Floyd)
3-Floyd Mayweather( clearly the most skilled this generation and defensive abilities are best ever. I only rank Manny higher as ATG's list bc Its dumb to argue Floyd has dodged and ducked a fair share of in their prime fighters, but I still love to see this master at work)

Pac showed last night he's still a great fighter and a top p4p fighter but To me last night he didn't look as fast w his hands and his foot work. I've always said the reason Manny was the one that dominated everyone for so long was bc his blinding hand speed/power, never gets tired, crazy fast foot work and punching from crazy angles. Now do you think he looked a little slower bc he was :

Affected from the Marquez KO?
Just getting older?
Needs Alex Ariza to get him back to physical best?
Bradley was just too slick to use his real speed?

Maybe a little of everything but I dont think Ariza can do anything more. I think the biggest thing is Bradley is really quick, fast and athletic.

Should Manny have Ariza back on team READ ENTIRE THREAD B4 voting