Comments Thread For: Roach Has Mixed Emotions Over Pacquiao's Victory

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Ruslan's face was busted up, but he never looked really hurt
Marquez isn't even a real WW, of course he got hurt
that KO in Pac-JMM 4 took Pac's chin away
if Timothy Bradley can hurt Pac, it's a fucking problem
Pac walked right through shots from Cotto and Margarito before

What you're failing to realize is the reason why JMM was able to drop Pac and Bradley was able to hurt him where Cotto and Margarito weren't (although Margarito did hurt him to the body). Is because they were able to hit Pac with punches he didn't see coming. That never happen against Cotto or Margs.

[Bronx2245]

What you're failing to realize is the reason why JMM was able to drop Pac and Bradley was able to hurt him where Cotto and Margarito weren't (although Margarito did hurt him to the body). Is because they were able to hit Pac with punches he didn't see coming. That never happen against Cotto or Margs.

Don't forget the catchweights. I think both Floyd (Canelo) and Manny (Cotto) benefitted from the catchweights. Plus, we saw what Margarito looked like against Shane without the wraps!

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Its kinda sad to see how much slower and worn down Pac truly is now. Maybe it's even worse because I had just finished watching Pac vs ODLH again before the Bradley fight. Pac's punches just don't have that snap anymore, he's much slower, he doesn't throw as much and a few other things. He beat Bradley fairly easily again, but I agree with others he didn't look as good as before. It was bound to happen sometime.

He's still P4P #2 as of right now though that speaks volumes.

P4P is very subjective and not worth getting into a pissing match over. But I don't see how a person could rate Pac ahead of Ward. To me, he's clearly top 5. And I can make an argument for him being as high as #3. What what logical argument can be made to rate him ahead of Ward.

[Elotero]

Sure Pac is on the decline. But he just beat P4P #3 on the prime, undefeated Bradley (atleast 2x in my eyes). Give the man props....

LMFAO..

Bradley was NOT #3 P4P, stop lying. He isnt more dominant than Vlad, Ward or Rigo or Sergio.

Bradley arguably lost his last 3 before this last fight, but I knew this would happen. Pac wins and the stans want to overblow the **** out of it.

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If Alvarado beats Marquez, that means Marquez is completely finished.

Yeah, I think JMM is pretty close to being done (and that Alvarado isn't as much of a scrub as some people think he is, though he may be ruined). JMM should have taken the Pac KO, and went into commentary and analysis in Mexico as a national hero. I know me saying Alvarado may be ruined sounds like me hedging, but we just haven't seen him since Provodnikov, and we know he's had a colourful personal life, so who the heck knows where he's at. I do know if JMM keeps stepping into that ring he's going to be done in sooner rather than later.

[AL_Camino]

Another Marquez fight, fúck. I honestly hope Alvarado wins just to see him in with someone new. The Pacquiao-Marquez fights are always great, but five is just insane.

I agree I hope Alvarado Can pull it off.

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Don't forget the catchweights. I think both Floyd (Canelo) and Manny (Cotto) benefitted from the catchweights. Plus, we saw what Margarito looked like against Shane without the wraps!

I don't think the catchweights mattered at all and either of those fights. Since the Pac-DLH fight, the world has gone "weight drain" crazy. Canelo and Cotto probably weighed 152 and 145 respectively for about two minutes. And had more than 30hrs to rehydrate. Weight drain wasn't an issue in either fight. What gets lost in the weight drain drama in Pac-DLH is that the reason Oscar was weight drained is because he tried to be slick and rehydrate after he was weighed in the lockerroom the night of the fight. He had fresh needle marks in his arm from taking an IV right before the fight. And if my memory serves me correctly, Pac actually weighed in heavier than Oscar entering the ring. That wasn't the case with Nelo and Cotto.

[Pu·gi·list]

I do hope Manny retire after one or two (maximum) fights
I did notice his age starting to show and I hope he doesn't go past beyond what's necessary and goes out on top

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LMFAO..

Bradley was NOT #3 P4P, stop lying. He isnt more dominant than Vlad, Ward or Rigo or Sergio.

Bradley arguably lost his last 3 before this last fight, but I knew this would happen. Pac wins and the stans want to overblow the **** out of it.

A good argument can be made on Brradley's behalf that he was #3 P4P entering sat's fight. But I agree, it was a lil fool's gold. And that's mostly due to the fact that JMM pretty much looked like hot garbage against Manny and caught lightening in a bottle.

[Bronx2245]

I don't think the catchweights mattered at all and either of those fights. Since the Pac-DLH fight, the world has gone "weight drain" crazy. Canelo and Cotto probably weighed 152 and 145 respectively for about two minutes. And had more than 30hrs to rehydrate. Weight drain wasn't an issue in either fight. What gets lost in the weight drain drama in Pac-DLH is that the reason Oscar was weight drained is because he tried to be slick and rehydrate after he was weighed in the lockerroom the night of the fight. He had fresh needle marks in his arm from taking an IV right before the fight. And if my memory serves me correctly, Pac actually weighed in heavier than Oscar entering the ring. That wasn't the case with Nelo and Cotto.

I don't think it was ONLY weight drain for ODLH. It was weight drain and *******.