Ducking. A loss isn't so bad so long as a fighter doesn't put so much value into his 0. Anyone can take a loss and bounce back from it. However, if you refuse to fight the top guys for one reason or another, it should be looked down upon. I know there's a lot of pressure that comes from losing because most fans are idiots and disparage any fighter for actually "going for it" but ducking just leaves too many questions unanswered.
What damages a legacy more? Consistent ducking or a "loss"
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What is considered ducking? declining a fight cause you want more money? Cause there are those that consider that ducking.....Or should you say business be damned and fight agreeing to everyone of your opponents demands... see ducking is anyones opinion but a loss is a LOSS and people sometimes says a loss is not a loss when officially its classified as a loss.Comment
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Ducking is just a fanboys way of disparaging a fighter he doesnt like ex:
If you ask for a drug test when a fighter is rumored or suspected of drug use is considered Ducking!
When you are supposed to wait for a stadium to be built and you decided to take on another opponent who is a champion you are Ducking.
When you offer an opponent more money than they ever made and that opponent DECLINES to fight you, You are ducking not the one that declined to fight you for a career high payday.
When your promoter admits he kept an opponent away from another in fear of "getting the daylights beat out of you" the opponent who was being kept away from is the one Ducking.
you just cant qualify whose doing ducking because no one has objectivity, especially when they start the conversation with, "being objective".Comment
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Ducking....... No Guts No Glory..
Hearns
SRL
SRR
ALi
Holyfield
Oscar
Duran
All the greats have fought the best... If you are a truly great fighter, then losses wont effect you in the eyes of the fans... But if you pull a sven ottke and only fight a certain class of fighter, then your legacy will be tarnishedComment
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This whole Floyd ducks this guy or that guy is ridiculous and played out.
The only guy you could make a real legit case for is Margarito in 2006, which coincidentally is when he split with Bob Arum. Pacquiao and Mayweather, if anyone did the ducking it was BOTH of them. You can't blame simply one guy for that fight not materializing yet.
Williams.....don't even get me started.Comment
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Answered something simplistic and "agenda fuelled" like this before. Obviously ducking is worse than losing on face value. Yet ducking can be pretty subjective and these days is the "go to" rant for rabid fans that for some reason don't like a certain fighter. Take Danny Garcia, for example. Before his fight with Matthysse was signed he was subjected to the rabid "duck" chants by people that didn't know diddly about what goes on to make a fight happen. Did he get respect from those said fans for not only having the fight, but winning it?
Also, Lennox Lewis was mentioned. Does he have losses for facing the best? He has losses against fighters he shouldn't have lost to in the first place. So his record could well have been unblemished if he hadn't been sloppy at crucial moments against somewhat inferior opponents. Goes to show, having losses doesn't mean you fought all the best fighters, it can mean you had an off night, were overconfident, sloppy or hadn't reached your full potential.Comment
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