What fight was it where you knew Tyson was shot?

[SeekDaGreat]

Was it Douglas, McNeely, Holyfield, Botha? Before any of these, after any of these?

I could tell he was losing it when he fought McNeely.

[Ryn0]

Being shot and past prime are two different things.

Do you mean past it or completely shot? Because he certainly wasn't shot when he fought McNeely, he went on to beat Bruno, Seldon (no great achievement but hey ho - a B level fighter - , Botha and gave Holyfield a very good fight the first time around.

And I don't believe any version of Tyson does particularly well against Holyfield (or Lewis) for that matter.

[ninerdude90]

The Botha fight. He should've been able to KO him within 2 rounds, instead he gets embarrassed for nearly half the fight before landing probably the deadliest straight right hand I've ever seen.

[Rahat]

When he sacked kevin Rooney that's when it all spiralled out of control the head movement disappeared n buster Douglas ko'd him. The head movement is what made tyson so good he was able to make you miss and make you pay viciously.

[SeekDaGreat]

Being shot and past prime are two different things.

Do you mean past it or completely shot? Because he certainly wasn't shot when he fought McNeely, he went on to beat Bruno, Seldon (no great achievement but hey ho - a B level fighter - , Botha and gave Holyfield a very good fight the first time around.

And I don't believe any version of Tyson does particularly well against Holyfield (or Lewis) for that matter.

Past his prime, the McNeely fight he started showing (for me.)

[Earl-Hickey]

Being shot and past prime are two different things.

Do you mean past it or completely shot? Because he certainly wasn't shot when he fought McNeely, he went on to beat Bruno, Seldon (no great achievement but hey ho - a B level fighter - , Botha and gave Holyfield a very good fight the first time around.

And I don't believe any version of Tyson does particularly well against Holyfield (or Lewis) for that matter.

On this site, the second an American doesn't look 100% they are "shot"

it doesn't work the other day though

example: Tyson being "shot" in his early 20's vs Hamed being prime against barerra

[SthPaw]

Not "Shot", but past prime evidence my friend spoke with me on this once and he suggested the Mathis fight. Mike may have finished him off, but he was missing and rhythm was all over the place at times...I think he had a point.

Mike began the downside of his peak when Rooney was outed, we all know that, I would say his post-prison period was his 'past prime but still very dangerous' phase.

As far as Mike being shot, I think his last few years are where you would say he was shot. The guy that fought Danny Williams, Kevin McBride etc was a complete and utter ghost of a peak Iron Mike.

[MisterHardtop]

Tyson looked "shot" against Lewis but before that fight there was no indication he was shot but we all knew he was done at the highest level. I for one expected a tougher fight but Tyson looked ready to go and just wanted to absorb as much punishment as possible, maybe looking for redemption.

[LacedUp]

I don't think Tyson was truly shot before after Lennox Lewis.

He was over the hill for sure, but he could still fight. After that fight he was done. And it was sad.

[Vadrigar.]

His career effectively ended after holyfield 2.