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    Economic Punching.

    I have a serious question.

    Why is that so important to most people when they score a fight? Why is it....fighters who land at a higher percentage..even though they are landing WAY LESS get the nod?

    These boxing purists are really starting to annoy me....lets get real. This is not ballroom dancing, it's fighting.

    I'd give ten times the points to the fighter doing the windmill as opposed to a guy trying to make people miss...then lands 1 counterpunch.

    thoughts.



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    #2
    So do you think Solimon won against Winky?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Mishra100
      So do you think Solimon won against Winky?
      No.

      Because the amount of Effective economic punches thrown by Wright outweighed the windmill done by Soliman.



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        #4
        If you would give points to the windmill rather than the evasive counterpuncher, then you arent rewarding points to the boxer, and this is boxing...

        Personally I would rather give points to 100 thrown/80 landed. Than 500 thrown/150 landed. Also you have to factor in power of those punches....

        It shows skill to be able to hit someone on the counter, or make them miss. That is of course what boxing is about.

        However I see your point in that fighting is fighting, so lets not focus on the politics, lets just see who the better fighter is. The stats are just there to aid a decision IMO.

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          #5
          Originally posted by EXIGE
          Personally I would rather give points to 100 thrown/80 landed. Than 500 thrown/150 landed. Also you have to factor in power of those punches....
          Yeah to me that is mind baffling. Just IMO.



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            #6
            Originally posted by RunWithKnives
            Yeah to me that is mind baffling. Just IMO.
            It really does depend on the fight however...

            If its a Tyson fight, and he is completely owning the other fighter, but is having a low connect percentage, then of course, the win goes in favour of Tyson even if his percentage is considerably lower than the opponent.

            I guess what im saying is, I dont think you could make a decision on a fight, simply by looking at shots thrown VS. shots landed, you really have to take power into account, and also the amount of fatigue a fighter is experiencing, the number of knockdowns.... all these things share what makes up the judges decision.

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              #7
              Originally posted by RunWithKnives
              No.

              Because the amount of Effective economic punches thrown by Wright outweighed the windmill done by Soliman.
              By that, just pure punches shouldn't matter, it matters how the punch hits the person. And as the other poster said, how the punch affects the opponent.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mishra100
                By that, just pure punches shouldn't matter, it matters how the punch hits the person. And as the other poster said, how the punch affects the opponent.
                Right.

                Both fighters are throwing the same level power punches.

                Fighter A throws more and lands more.

                Fighter B throws less but lands at a higher percentage.

                Fighter B gets the nod because his gloves were louder, and he looked cute slipping punches.



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                • EXIGE
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                  Right.

                  Both fighters are throwing the same level power punches.

                  Fighter A throws more and lands more.

                  Fighter B throws less but lands at a higher percentage.

                  Fighter B gets the nod because his gloves were louder, and he looked cute slipping punches.
                  This is a tough question, but I still remain that the more economic one should get the nod... its like, they are evenly matched until that point then you look at who was boxing and who had just stepped out of the pub, and it easily goes to the boxer, in this great sport of ours.

                  The only exception would be if the number of shots landed was very significantly higher than the others... so:

                  Fighter A-100/80
                  fighter B-1000/400

                  In this instance, it is clear that fighter A is being dominated... at the same time figher A also has a higher punch connect percentage... but because 400 shots were landed against the Fighter A's 80, it would be criminal to give the nod to Fighter A, even when he has the higher percentage.

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                  • Mishra100
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                    #10
                    How did you score the hopkins-taylor fights?

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