What Is HBO/Showtime's Obligation To American Fighters?

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  • paulf
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    What Is HBO/Showtime's Obligation To American Fighters?

    Do American networks have an obligation to American fighters?

    Ive asked this question a lot the past few years, and all this Ward talk has me back at it. it's a tough one to answer.

    Elsewhere in, say, England, Germany, Japan, etc. when a fighter is champion, he gets a lot of attention. He gets media coverage, some level of popularity, has drawing power, and his fights are the subject of public interest. Some guys are more popular than others, but the fact remains: they support their champions.

    In America, that ain't the case. In America, you have fighters from other countries fighting on high-profile and even PPV cards, while American-born champions (think 147 champ Williams, Bradley as 140 champ, Lamont Peterson, etc) aren't able to fill a bowling alley. America is also a hotbed where fighters come over from all over to world to make their names and become stars (Martinez, Golovkin, etc).

    HBO is an American network marketing to a, seemingly shrinking, American audience. That leads us to some tough questions and some conflict of interest:

    Should HBO give preference/focus on American fighters? Foreign fighters that are champions/high profile can often make money fighting at home, and chasing American audiences and dollars is merely an option. American fighters, on the other hand, either make it here or not at all.

    Back when Hershman was at Showtime, they completely ignored demographics/nationalities and honestly tried to make the best fights. Froch, Kessler, Vic and Nonito, Agbeko, Vasquez and Marquez, etc. all were the main players on the network and the quality of the fights went simply unmatched.

    Meanwhile, HBO's blunders in showcasing fighters based on demographics has been well documented (Bradley-Alexander anyone?).

    But where does that leave up-and-coming American fighters? If American networks aren't showcasing them, and giving young fighters incentive to turn professional, will there be HBO and Showtime boxing in 10-20 years?

    I'm not making an argument here, just looking to open a discussion.
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    #2
    We get a puncher than we can fill someone stadiums

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      #3
      Originally posted by paulf
      Meanwhile, HBO's blunders in showcasing fighters based on demographics has been well documented (Bradley-Alexander anyone?).
      Bradley-Alexander had one of the most pathetic attendances in boxing history. And you think it's HBO's fault.

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        Originally posted by JQside
        Bradley-Alexander had one of the most pathetic attendances in boxing history. And you think it's HBO's fault.
        Of course it's HBO's fault; they are the reason that fight was made. They wanted it, put up huge unwarranted money for it, and billed it as a "super fight" when in reality Alexander was just beginning to make a name outside of St. Louis and Bradley, belt or not, was still a no-one to audiences with zero drawing power.

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        • SlySlickSmooth
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          #5
          Who are America's KO artists? I'm not going to count a fighter like Mikey Garcia either since he's often marketed as Mexican-American. Everytime we have a non black/white fighter born in American they have a joined name. Danny Garcia is now moving on as a Rican-American as an example not ****tin on Danny but before he was all about Philly and I can't recall him even bringing out the PR flag to his fights.

          Besides Wilder, who do we got? And not being racist but where the **** are our white fighters? Paulie is out here all alone.

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          • HeroBando
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            It's an interesting question, and no doubt the US scene is less parochial, but who are the biggest stars in Germany? The Klitschkos and some other east euros, and even YPH seems to get respect and attention. All these guys learned to speak German well afaik. Maybe they'd be bigger stars if native born, but it's a healthy scene without much "domestic" talent.

            Not sure, but Linares seem to do well in Japan, just less quality comp

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            • SlySlickSmooth
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              #7
              Imagine how big it would be if a Great White Hope appeared and DOMINATED the HW scene for just 2-3 years.

              Since America has lost the HW crown boxing will be low in America. Once we take back the crown, boxing will become more central to Americans.

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                #8
                Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
                Imagine how big it would be if a Great White Hope appeared and DOMINATED the HW scene for just 2-3 years.

                Since America has lost the HW crown boxing will be low in America. Once we take back the crown, boxing will become more central to Americans.
                That's an opening for Travis Kauffman lol. Better yet Mike Lee should bulk up and wreak havoc on these no talent bums.

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