Ward/Rodriguez pay causing negative ripples for HBO?

[Hougigo]

Steve Kim ***8207;@stevemaxboxing 44m
Hearing from more and more #boxing insiders, that what HBO (over)paid for Ward-Rodriguez is now biting them in the ass...

Steve Kim ***8207;@stevemaxboxing 44m
Bottom line, other managers, promoters and fighters see what was paid to Ward-Rodriguez, and are asking for those numbers too #boxing

Steve Kim ***8207;@stevemaxboxing 43m
Yvon Michel told me earlier, Adonis Stevenson saw what Ward was getting and thought the HBO offer to him was not nearly good enough #boxing

Steve Kim ***8207;@stevemaxboxing 40m
Just think about it, Edwin Rodriguez not only got a million to be a B-side to Ward, he also got a guaranteed return bout on HBO #boxing

Wrote some long crap out and accidentally exited, so here's the gist.
HEre is a chart of boxing's highest rated fights of 2013:



I'm a little unsure how it's formatted. Evidently Ward Rodriguez peaked at 1.2 while AVG over a little over 1M... but other fights like Chavez Jr/Vera and GGG/Stevens are showing it's AVG when they peaked by about 100k more.

Ward was only surpassed in pay by 2 guys, Cotto and CHavez Jr, who's 1 and 2 on the list respectively while he's 12.

Cotto got 2M while Devlin got 250k

Chavez Jr got 2.5 M (before the fine) while Vera got 275k

GGG got 400k while stevens got 290k (whole card under 800k)

Ward got 1.9M (before E-Rod's penalty) while E-Rod got 1M (whole card cost 3.15M)

You can see why Stevenson was mad, that he beat Ward in ratings last year and got paid less. Hell, Golovkins 800k card was almost 1/4 of Ward's and produced better ratings.

I don't think Showtime can support all the fighters they have right now, but HBO may start losing one fight deals like they did with Stevenson. They don't seem to want to do business with anybody other than Goosen promotions in the States, out of all the bigger promotions (the big ones under TR and GBP).

If Kovalev's ratings, for example, start rising, Duva will damn sure start asking for more money and it'd be justifiable. I don't know how much he got as his purse, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't over a million. Hell, I heard Agnew got a 75k purse, Kovalev couldn't be too far away.

They saved money on buying Fonfara/Stevenson, so they should use that money for Kovalev/Pascal in Canada to make up for the temp loss

[STEELHEAD]

keep in mind that the majority of real hardcore boxing fans do not have the money to buy fights . they watch illegal streams.

thats the absolute true fact!
PERIOD. idiots

[artfuL_]

HBO shot themselves in the foot paying 3+ mil for Ward and Rodriguez.

Hougigo, do you the amount HBO paid for Ward-Dawson?

[Hougigo]

HBO shot themselves in the foot paying 3+ mil for Ward and Rodriguez.

Hougigo, do you the amount HBO paid for Ward-Dawson?

Ward 1.36M while Dawson was 600k

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ad-dawson-size

then Fat Dan Tweet:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=564728

As for Stevenson, if the rumored purse was 1.75, it still seems relatively high for a tune-up and no guarantee of the fight they want afterwards.

Stevenson Brings in numbers with 1M against Dawson and 1.3 against Bellew.
I think we'll get a look when he goes to showtime though of his drawing power.

Stevenson was the B-side and wasn't well known stateside going in against Dawson. Then in the Bellew fight he had Kovalev on his undercard who pulled in just as much, and also proved he has drawing power fighting Agnew with a crap supporting bout.

Stevenson should get paid more, but 1.75 for just his purse seems way to high when he won't guarantee the fight that they want

[Loque-san]

Steve Kim is a big Ward hater though. We have to take these rumours with a grain of salt.

[thuggery]

Why did they pay that much in the first place? Ward is boring and isn't a draw despite widely being considered the #2 P4P and who the hell was Rodriguez to begin with.

[Hougigo]

Steve Kim is a big Ward hater though. We have to take these rumours with a grain of salt.

True, he hates Ward and Rigo to death..... but then there's the facts

Ward/E-Rod cost 2.9 between the two of them, 3.15 for the card

Stevenson is unhappy that he produced more viewings than Ward and got paid less.

There are multiple fights ahead of Ward/Rodriguez, some who got paid less and a majority, if not all, who's entire card cost less than Ward/E-rod

[ShoulderRoll]

Steve Kim is a big Ward hater though. We have to take these rumours with a grain of salt.

Yep. Kim has an axe to grind and he isn't an objective journalist.

Ward has earned that money by what he has accomplished in the ring. Rodriguez didn't deserve it but HBO caved in to his demands.

[Fetta]

keep in mind that the majority of real hardcore boxing fans do not have the money to buy fights . they watch illegal streams.

thats the absolute true fact!
PERIOD. idiots

Boxing an expensive sport to be fan of.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Ward 1.36M while Dawson was 600k

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...ad-dawson-size

then Fat Dan Tweet:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=564728

As for Stevenson, if the rumored purse was 1.75, it still seems relatively high for a tune-up and no guarantee of the fight they want afterwards.

Stevenson Brings in numbers with 1M against Dawson and 1.3 against Bellew.
I think we'll get a look when he goes to showtime though of his drawing power.

Stevenson was the B-side and wasn't well known stateside going in against Dawson. Then in the Bellew fight he had Kovalev on his undercard who pulled in just as much, and also proved he has drawing power fighting Agnew with a crap supporting bout.

Stevenson should get paid more, but 1.75 for just his purse seems way to high when he won't guarantee the fight that they want

Wow that was crazy..