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  • HardSciFi
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    Kovalev's performance didn't seem disappointing to me. He got cut by illegal stuff (headbutt, possibly forearm), and his opponent had a good guard that got beat down over time.

    GGG got hit more by Adama in their fight, and it went a similar distance, and Adama had a worse record (his claim to fame was not being KO'd by Geale, lol), with a few losses.

    I'd put GGG and Kovalev's performances on par with each other. Impressive defeats vs guys that clearly didn't want to take chance and were more in the fights to last longer than to win rounds.

    Compare that to rising star Mikey Garcia, already star Floyd Mayweather, already star Canelo Alvarez, already star Manny Pacquao, already best in class Danny Garcia... where were their KOs in their last fights? Hell, Danny lost his by most accounts. Mikey didn't want to get KO'd, Floyd was masterful but didn't get any KO, and Canelo took longer to KO a fighter that gave about the same skilled effort as Adama or Agnew.

    Expecting 3 round KOs doesn't work well unless the opponent is fat and out of shape (see the types of opponents the heavyweight guys often fight), or the fighter engages. Neither happened in this fight.

    GGG vs Kovalev is intriguing, but the weights look tough. GGG is a small 160lbs, Kovalev is a full 175 lber. Maybe they meet at 168 after they both take a fight or two to adjust to the weight. I'd rather see them face some better competition at their weight classes first (Pascal, Stevenson, Hopkins for Kovalev, Geale, Martinez, Chavez, Sturm, Murray, Quillin for Golovkin) and if they can beat some of those quality guys, they should be good enough to fight Ward, which is a more intriguing mesh of styles imo.

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    • DoktorSleepless
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      #22
      It's April Fools everyday when Lyle Fitzsimmons writes.

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      • rogdogx
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        #23
        GGG should move up to heavyweight and challenge Klitchko as well. Lyle you are a ******ed stooge

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        • ChiBoxingFan
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          #24
          This fight needs to happen! One hell of a match up damn! Two of the biggest punchers in boxing.

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          • gyllespie
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            #25
            Eh, give the author a break. It's only a fantasy matchup and one that's not at the top of the list. Nobody is trying to get GG to move up to fight bigger men. People like myself, all we're saying is this: in the event GG can't find good opponents to fight him I'd much rather see him move up in weight to challenge elite guys than watch him destroy bums.

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            • moonshineman
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              #26
              Kovalev and GGG

              I love both of these guys. They ALWAYS bring it. The fans always get their money's worth. Isn't that the point?.

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              • Rage of Wodan
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                #27
                Why put these two against each other, even ideologically? They both have much to accomplish in their respective weight classes. JCC Jr. is a big dude. he'll be a nice challenge for GGG.
                And Kovalev's performance was spectacular. He got hit 25 times total, and only 4 of them even mattered at all. Not saying they hurt Kovalev, but they landed solidly with some pop. Yet Kovalev continued to stalk him.
                Kovalev and GGG are close friends. They aren't fighting.

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                • Rage of Wodan
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HardSciFi
                  Kovalev's performance didn't seem disappointing to me. He got cut by illegal stuff (headbutt, possibly forearm), and his opponent had a good guard that got beat down over time.

                  GGG got hit more by Adama in their fight, and it went a similar distance, and Adama had a worse record (his claim to fame was not being KO'd by Geale, lol), with a few losses.

                  I'd put GGG and Kovalev's performances on par with each other. Impressive defeats vs guys that clearly didn't want to take chance and were more in the fights to last longer than to win rounds.

                  Compare that to rising star Mikey Garcia, already star Floyd Mayweather, already star Canelo Alvarez, already star Manny Pacquao, already best in class Danny Garcia... where were their KOs in their last fights? Hell, Danny lost his by most accounts. Mikey didn't want to get KO'd, Floyd was masterful but didn't get any KO, and Canelo took longer to KO a fighter that gave about the same skilled effort as Adama or Agnew.

                  Expecting 3 round KOs doesn't work well unless the opponent is fat and out of shape (see the types of opponents the heavyweight guys often fight), or the fighter engages. Neither happened in this fight.

                  GGG vs Kovalev is intriguing, but the weights look tough. GGG is a small 160lbs, Kovalev is a full 175 lber. Maybe they meet at 168 after they both take a fight or two to adjust to the weight. I'd rather see them face some better competition at their weight classes first (Pascal, Stevenson, Hopkins for Kovalev, Geale, Martinez, Chavez, Sturm, Murray, Quillin for Golovkin) and if they can beat some of those quality guys, they should be good enough to fight Ward, which is a more intriguing mesh of styles imo.
                  If Agnew would have "boxed" and fought back .. it would have been a second round KO.

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                  • secondsin
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