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Nonbiased accurate look at Floyd's resume.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postthe canelo who fought angulo would destroy floyd. it's too bad that episode of the golden boy soap opera had floyd winning. stay tuned for the upcoming episodes. i heard it's going to get good! secret love triangle between oscar, floyd, and haymon?
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Originally posted by big_james10 View PostThe first paragraph of this ****** post proves that you are biased. There are no unbiased people on this forum when it comes to Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio. If you have been reading this board for more than a week, you should know that.
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Originally posted by MurkaMan View PostDo you think the Floyd who faced Oscar could beat the Floyd who faced Canelo? The Floyd who faced Oscar admitted that he didnt even LOVE boxing anymore. Did he fight like he loved it? He only threw jabs and didnt even try. Yes Floyd was washed up and he looked bad against Hatton too. I actually think Floyd is better today them when he fought Shane, Baldo, Ortiz. But he was younger then? What fighter in history can age backwards? Name one.
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Originally posted by MurkaMan View PostIts a FACT that he fought like a lazy fighterOriginally posted by MurkaMan View Posthe ducked Pac and I even admitted that he may be using roids.Originally posted by MurkaMan View PostI have NEVER seen a fighter like this in history.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postbenjamin button. you lose.
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Originally posted by MurkaMan View PostFirst thing I want to say is that Im not a f.lomo. I used to ride for Floyd and truly felt that Pac was ducking him until he demanded 100% of the revenue. After the Cotto fight, this fool said, 'Take The test' in front of millions of people when everyone knew that at that point the money, and not the test, was the issue.
However, I have grown to let that slide from the Ghost fight to the Canelo fight.
The way he beat them made me feel that ducking Pacman wont blind me, or anyone from all of these masterful performances. There is NO FIGHTER IN HISTORY that can take his resume, and make the adjustments needed in order to dominate them all without being grazed. What are you going to say? 'Der they would knock them out in one round'?
Well take their power away, could they make poetry out of these opponents like Floyd does? No fighter in history could do it, and based off of skills alone I think Flolyd may be the greatest most skilled fighter in the history of professional pugilism.
As far as him ducking, I only give him credit for ducking Pacman. One fighter.
He structured his career to get two money fights with Oscar and Gatti. He went directly to Oscar and Gatti, and people who hate him accused him of ducking ten or twenty fighters who were in between. Not cool at all. He retired after Oscar NOT to duck a bunch of easy fights, but because he felt that after fighting Oscar he had got everything he set out to get. Around that time he said he didnt even love boxing anymore. I think his best wins are JMM, Ortiz who was 164lbs and 24 yrs old, Mosley who at that time was coming off a great win, Ghost who he changed his entire style in order to beat, and Canelo who I felt was too big for him. It was a bonus fight, and he walked that giant down. Cotto was shot when Floyd fought him. He was destroyed by Pac and Margarita, and was coming off an unimpressive victory over a shot Margarita. Oscar was old and he was a money fight to me.
I remember when Ortiz beat Berto, he was number 2 at ww and was the best, strongest, most prime guy out there. Jim Lampley said no one at ww would fight him. Then when Floyd chose him, he said that Floyd was fighting him because he didnt throw any jabs at Berto, as if a jab is going to run Floyd away.
Floyd has BLATANTLY fought the absolute BEST at Golden boy at the time he fought them. But detractors pretend to ignore that and instead OVERexaggerrate about him picking them for a reason. When in actuallity, those opinions didnt matter. Because they were the BEST at the company at the time he fought them.
I feel that most people dont even know boxing, and dont base their fight predictions on any fight math. Instead base their predictions on hype; "Floyd is going to win because he's Floyd" "Ghost is going to lose because he's goofy, lame, and no one like that would beat Floyd"
Most people thought he would be shoulder rolling and countering Ghost on the inside. I knew it would be impossible, because Ghost is not the brawler you all marked him off as. He's a tall tactical pressure swarmer. His punches are long and too close together. Floyd clinched BOTH his arms on the inside 100% of the time they got close. He did that to take away the very thing I thought would cause Floyd problems. Floyd normally shoulder rolls on the inside, and I didnt know that he was smart enough to realize Ghosts inside game was a problem. Not only that, but Floyd used footwork to neutralize his height and longness. I didnt know he still had footwork. I didnt see ANY boxing writers, or any posters talk about those small adjustments he made. Because he has NEVER fought like that his entire career. After the fight, pretend-fans claimed, 'I knew it would play out like this. I knew Floyd would win'
The Ghost fight was boring as hell. Floyd threw two slow right hands a round and ran around the ring. But it impressed me how he changed his entire style to compensate for Ghost's awkwardness. He fights all of these different fighters and styles, and completely changes his style in order to dominate them all without being grazed. No fighter in history could do this. NONE.
Floyd is the only fighter in history that is truly BORN to box. SRL started boxing at 16 as a hobby and ended up being good at it. While Floyd was born into a boxing family and could naturally run 3 to 4 miles at the age of SEVEN.
SRL was washed up at 30 and lacked discipline and was a dopehead. Floyd is the only fighter in history to be in his prime at 37, and is programmed to be BEYOND discipline. I have never seen a fighter with this type of work ethic. Without boxing SRL is alright. Without boxing Floyd is doomed. Floyd is only built to box. He's not even built to function in the real world without it.
You had fighters like ALI who was washed up at 37 and losing to Spinks who only had seven fights.
I dont care if he ducked Pacman or not, thats not going to blind me from all this other stuff. Skills, dedication, versitility etc.
I guarantee you this, Floyd will be fighting in his PRIME at the age of 40 and older. When he retires he will have nothing to live for. Then he will just keep returning to the sport. No trolls please, I just want thoughts from nonbiased people only. Because when you start being HONEST About Floyd you may end up saying something you dont want to say; That he is the most SKILLED fighter in the HISTORY of fighting, in ALL.
Maybe he ends his career with wins over Manny and Sergio and gets a middleweight title but I doubt it. More of the Kahns and Ortiz types most likely.
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Originally posted by MurkaMan View PostIm glad you highlighted the one in the middle. Thats the one that will make people see that Im really not biased. I turned on this dude after the Cotto fight when he ducked Pac, but after that, life went on. He went on to still dominate and change up his whole style in order to beat guys without being grazed. At that point man I felt that Pac didnt matter. Its not like he ducked Pac and vanished. He ducked him and still DOMINATED some very good fighters. No other fighter in history was in their prime at 37 and aging backwards, and fighting THIS sharp. And he is in YOUR favorite sport.
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Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View PostFloyd is a great fighter but he lost to Castillo anyways. And sure he changes his style but he won't fight the one style that would have given him trouble. The fast southpaw with power and movement in Manny Pacquaio.
Maybe he ends his career with wins over Manny and Sergio and gets a middleweight title but I doubt it. More of the Kahns and Ortiz types most likely.
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