Mayweather Ducking Perception vs. Reality

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  • J The UnBiased
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    #21
    Originally posted by Everlast03
    "all belts do is collect dust," Where were/are most of these guys ranked p4p?
    There are only 4 Welterweights on the P4P List. One of them he already beat the shit out of, the other 2 are with Arum you idiot. Who is Floyd supposed to fight?

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    • R_Walken
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      #22
      Originally posted by daggum
      number 9 maidana! remember when floyd fans said floyd couldn't fight #1 margarito because he lost years earlier to santos at 154...wat happened! maidana lost to devon alexander a lil while ago but floyd can still fight him because hes #9! amnesia strikes again.

      Just wondering who you have ahead of Maidana?

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      • SeekDaGreat
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        #23
        I never questioned that he fought good fighters. Just question if he ever fought the greatest fighters.

        Only opponent that literally impressed me was Canelo as of recent years. Rest were aged or obvious mismatches. IMO.

        He doesn't take risks.

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        • Beercules
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          #24
          Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
          I never questioned that he fought good fighters. Just question if he ever fought the greatest fighters.

          Only opponent that literally impressed me was Canelo as of recent years. Rest were aged or obvious mismatches. IMO.

          He doesn't take risks.
          Canelo would've been a great win, but Floyd messed that up with his CW fiasco. The CW wasn't even necessary.

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          • damned1974
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            #25
            While I don't agree with the business side of boxing as it mainly serves the promoters and not the fans, the reality is that when fighters are new and starting out, the general process is
            1- that they fight a string of bums to pave their records and give themselves experience, then-
            2-they want to fight everyone reputable to make a name for themselves, and finally once they make a name for themselves-
            3-they become complacent because they have reached a level of business as opposed to what they started the sport for-legacy and they realize that they are 1 loss from taking a paycut or losing a degree of relevance or a claim at being the best.
            Cash and promoters have corrupted and ****d this sport dry.

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            • blank_frackis
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              #26
              I don't blame Floyd for most of his recent fights, but I do blame him for Maidana. It's a complete mismatch and everyone knows it. It's a combination of a guy who isn't anywhere near Floyd's level and is a terrible match up style wise. It's an utter waste of time - the best anyone can say about it is that he's not Amir Khan.

              But I don't think that one fight makes him guilty of ducking people overall. Mosley might have been past his best, but it was at least a fight people had at one time wanted to see, same with Cotto. Alvarez and Guerrero are actually really good fighters. Ortiz not so much.

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              • White_Knight
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                #27
                Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
                I think the people he would have not fought in 147 or 154 was Paul Williams and Sergio but Cotto and Pac both ducked Sergio too, he called all 3 out.
                Pacquiao never fought in the same division as Paul Williams, whereas Floyd did. Su****iously, Floyd retired from boxing when Paul Williams won a title by beating Margarito and returned when Williams had just moved up to middleweight.

                It is true that Sergio had called out both Pacquiao and Floyd, but to my knowledge Sergio never offered Pacquiao the 80/20 split to fight at 150 offer. Pacquiao has fought at 150 once. It could be argued that after that one fight he decided not to fight there anymore. Floyd, on the other hand, fought at 154 on 3 occasions, twice after Martinez offered to fight him there.

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                • ADP02
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  ODH, Shane, cotto and manny all did the same thing-refuse to fight floyd until it wouldn't hurt their earning potential if they lost. The only posters who question this are fans of these fighters or posters that hate floyd.
                  Floyd fans are funny!

                  Oscar - Quartey, Tito, Mosley 1, Mosley 2, Whitakar, Vargas, Hopkins

                  Mosley - Oscar 1 & 2, Vernon Forrest 1 & 2, Winky Wright 1 & 2, Vargas 1 & 2, Cotto, Margarito

                  Cotto - Mosley, Margarito 1 & 2, Manny, Clottey (Trout, Martinez AFTER Floyd)

                  Manny - Morales 1, 2, 3, Barrera, Ledwaba, Marquez 1, 2, 3, 4, Cotto, Oscar, Margarito, Bradley 1 & 2, Clottey, ....

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                  • Fighting_Pride
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                    #29
                    what part of "health comes first" don't you get. mayweather will never take a risky fight, that's why many label him as a cherry picker.

                    2nd, he fights for the money. he'd beat up the mother of his children just to save a few bucks


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                    • Deevel916
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                      #30
                      What's there to debate? Floyd himself came out and said he's a cherry picker who picks and chooses who he wants to fight.

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