I'm changing my stance on Bradley v Pac 1

[Doctor_Tenma]

Imagine if we could all sit in a conference room and watch this fight together. While slowing down points of the fight and stopping to make points.

Oh man, there would be a royal rumble going down in that room.

I can't wait for April 12th!

The fanboys would expose themselves, I've already done that and most of them were surprised.

[R_Walken]

I've always said Bradley won the fight. It wasnt Bradley being dominate It just seemed PAC took his foot off the gas in the second half and Bradley gutted out a decision. It's crazy that he did that with 2 busted ankles.

I just think PAC didn't take the fight seriously and it bit him in the @$$. I think Bradley takes the rematch ( Might get robbed on the cards) Can't wait for this fight.

[ADP02]

Manny won this one clearly.

Manny took the foot off the pedal the last few rounds knowing full well that this was a blow out. In retrospect, knowing the score and the judges didn't bring their "good" pair of glasses to the fight, Manny shouldn't have done that BUT still, Manny should have won this one on the scorecards.

[bojangles1987]

People have really deluded themselves about this fight. Last time I watched, I actually had it more convincing for Pac than I remembered. He clearly won the fight, and this whole "Bradley dominated the championship rounds" talk isn't true. He may have won them, but I'm not even sure about that.

[lfc19titles]

Anyone who says Bradley won this is a moron

Simple as that

[ADP02]

People have really deluded themselves about this fight. Last time I watched, I actually had it more convincing for Pac than I remembered. He clearly won the fight, and this whole "Bradley dominated the championship rounds" talk isn't true. He may have won them, but I'm not even sure about that.

I have to go back and rewatch it but Bradley was not convincing in those rounds either. It was more that Manny took the foot off the pedal than Bradley did well. But if there was a round to give Bradley, it was later in the fight. The early rounds were dominated by Manny clearly.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

I had a lot of money on Bradley... Hell, I was out watching it at a sports bar where the noise from the TV's were drained and muffled by the people there, and I could STILL see Manny absolutely dominated Bradley without the commentary. And judging by the general public's reaction to the views of HBO, it seems they agreed with me.

Since then I've watched it 2-3 times, only giving Bradley 1-2 rounds.

Bradley's work was definitely not apparent.

[-Kev-]

I watched it again and HBO were scoring anything Manny did. ("And Manny just WINKED right AT ME, Jim!"... I didn't realised you scored points for winking at commentators).

If you look at it again, Ping Ping does jack **** for most of the first two minutes of each around, even taking one round off. If you're only fighting for a third of a round, you'd better make sure you win the rest big to take it.

There are times when he looks off balance and clumsy in that fight.

Everyone recalls it as a dominant win, but also not a memorable fight. How can a fight from an offense-first fighter be dominant AND dull? (Unless it involves Clottey?)

Watching it a second time I was surprised.

I watched the fight only once, live on PPV, and your post is a carbon copy of my exact thoughts for the fight. I had it 6-6 but was called a bunch of names and that I do not know how to score a fight. But I just can't see how fighting the last 30 seconds of each round is dominating or winning. I felt that Pacquiao won 4 of the first 6 rounds and Bradley won 4 of the next 6. Apparently it is agreed upon by fans and media that Manny won about 10 rounds, which I see as just ridiculous and I am gladly in the "can't score a fight" team.

[HeroBando]

I don't know where you was going with that question but I was saying everyone watched that fight with expectation of a dominant win for Pacquaio. I mean honestly who actually was watching Bradley fight before the Pacquiao fight? To be honest all I heard about Bradley was he head butts and cut fighters eyes, it was repeated as his major strength in the fight. Pacquiao team and everyone kept repeating their gameplan was to watch out for his head and said nothing else about his style.

Now that I am acclimated to his style from watching all of his fights that were aired and now being able to watch the fight without expectation or egregious groupthink. I found Bradley to be really the winner. Pacquiao wasn't throwing much and he was taking punching to the body and counters to the face. No one accounted for it and since the public is money many is going to reposition themselves to go with the popular choice.

Also Jeff Mayweather doesn't have a fighter noteworthy and I know you are not talking about the Danny Garcia that gave Nonito Donaire the worst gameplan ever against Guillermo Rigondeaux.

Ok I wonder how many other decisions were tainted by groupthink. Maybe Guerrero really beat Floyd? Who is the authority on boxing groupthink anyway, other than you? But Bradley wasn't a huge underdog, a pretty popular pick with the writers at the time. I think Cliff picked him, Dan Rafael too.

I'm not talking about Robert Garcia, you know Danny Garcia the guy that just got a gift decision a week ago? though I see you had him winning. Must love being a contrarian aka troll in forum lingo

[Pocket Dogs!]

Why did Pac take his foot off the engine?

Um, because Bradley didn't take a shower for a week!

As Rocco Siffredi says, "Baby, it's just smellz."