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  • #51
    Originally posted by ButtScratcher^^ View Post
    His chin is not cracked, that is a myth. Manny understands that what he got caught with the last time; --was a type of punch that can knock out anyone even the hardest chin in the world. If freddie and his team can instill that in his mind, and we know manny is very gullible anyway; he may easily believed it; and may return to his normal ultra confident self.

    Remember: Another of manny's best asset is his heart and mental stability. He has the best of both worlds. If there's anyone who can overcome inner fear, timidity and other mental inferiorities this type of person is the exact specimen who can do it.
    His chin IS cracked though. I've never in my life seen Manny go down to the type of shot he went down in the 3rd round against JMM. You can call it JMM being on PEDs or whatever, but Manny wasn't the same Manny to me.

    I think cracked is a strong word. His chin isn't granite anymore, and Manny's a human being. I don't care how much confidence he can muster. He's not gonna have the same confidence like he had in the Cotto fight.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View Post
      Or if he keeps on listening to Bradley, and comes in like a wild man, and gets caught with something big coming inside.
      Bradley doesn't hit that hard. At all. If he did he would have dropped Marquez.

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      • #53
        I can see a KO on this fight if they 'll fight toe to toe. Both are damage good fighters. If they say PACMAN had a cracked chin from KO at JMM fight and then BRADLEY had a cracked brain from Provod punches. We'll see a KO on this fight.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
          Bradley doesn't hit that hard. At all. If he did he would have dropped Marquez.
          Yeah, it only took Manny an ass load of shots to put JMM down in the 5th round, so you're a pitty pat puncher if you don't put him down.

          Great logic you have there.

          Bradley's power is underrated. He had Provodnikov hurt on multiple occasions. Had JMM stunned on multiple occasions.

          The force multiplies when someone is coming at you, as you hit them. Hence the whole, "Manny's lost his killer instinct. He;s not hungry anymore."

          You really think Bradley's trying to motivate Manny to train harder than he ever has before? I don't. I think he wants Manny to play the machismo game, and open himself up to something they have planned for Manny all night long.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View Post
            His chin IS cracked though. I've never in my life seen Manny go down to the type of shot he went down in the 3rd round against JMM. You can call it JMM being on PEDs or whatever, but Manny wasn't the same Manny to me.

            I think cracked is a strong word. His chin isn't granite anymore, and Manny's a human being. I don't care how much confidence he can muster. He's not gonna have the same confidence like he had in the Cotto fight.
            In that case, we'll see. Manny has a couple more fights. We will see what he's really made of, if he's got still got it or not. My gut says he's gonna be better than ever for the last 2-3 fights and then will go really downhill from there. So we hope that in those 2-3 fights we get to see floyd-manny.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View Post
              Yeah, it only took Manny an ass load of shots to put JMM down in the 5th round, so you're a pitty pat puncher if you don't put him down.

              Great logic you have there.

              Bradley's power is underrated. He had Provodnikov hurt on multiple occasions. Had JMM stunned on multiple occasions.

              The force multiplies when someone is coming at you, as you hit them. Hence the whole, "Manny's lost his killer instinct. He;s not hungry anymore."

              You really think Bradley's trying to motivate Manny to train harder than he ever has before? I don't. I think he wants Manny to play the machismo game, and open himself up to something they have planned for Manny all night long.
              Marquez goes down all the time. It's almost expected in his fights. He and Bradley are a lot alike in that they aren't hard to hurt, but they have tremendous recuperative powers.

              Bradley's power was underrated at 140. What power he had there seems to have left him. Provodnikov wasn't as much hurt as exhausted. Marquez never looked particularly bothered despite getting hit with Bradley's best shots. Pac sure as hell was never bothered. If Pac's chin was so far gone that Bradley could put him in any danger, we would have seen so against Rios.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by ButtScratcher^^ View Post
                In that case, we'll see. Manny has a couple more fights. We will see what he's really made of, if he's got still got it or not. My gut says he's gonna be better than ever for the last 2-3 fights and then will go really downhill from there. So we hope that in those 2-3 fights we get to see floyd-manny.
                My gut tells me, he's so great that even at this declined form, he's still better than 99.9% of the WW division. Don't fool yourself though. He's not Pac Man anymore. He's just Manny.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                  Marquez goes down all the time. It's almost expected in his fights.

                  Bradley's power was underrated at 140. What power he had there seems to have left him. Provodnikov wasn't as much hurt as exhausted. Marquez never looked particularly bothered despite getting hit with Bradley's best shots. Pac sure as hell was never bothered. If Pac's chin was so far gone that Bradley could put him in any danger, we would have seen so against Rios.
                  JMM @ WW is also training with Herredia, and is a lot stronger than before.

                  Marquez never looked bothered because that's what makes him great. He has an elite poker face. Also, I don't know what fight you were watching, but Bradley did stun Marquez on more than 1 occasion. You don't need KD's to tell you the story.

                  And about Manny/Bradley 1. That was before he got KTFO.

                  And about Rios. What were his most meaningful punch? a few uppercuts in the clinch, and a couple of left hooks in a 12 round fight.

                  Yeah, great test of his chin.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Beercules View Post


                    In b4 Don Mega and Mathed
                    You beat me to it but Pac already knows without a KO, he has no shot to win. Every judge from every state is already in Bradley's pocket before every fight. His dad goes to their houses and threatens them....you don't want to be on big Tim's bad side.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View Post
                      My gut tells me, he's so great that even at this declined form, he's still better than 99.9% of the WW division. Don't fool yourself though. He's not Pac Man anymore. He's just Manny.
                      It's true that the once upon a time so called 'Pacman' is long gone and out, and, will never return. But what does an old 'Pacman' really do? It's used to dominate fighters due to sheer athleticism, determination and physicality. Also this pacman is terribly imbalanced, it's even called one-dimensional by the majority at it's very early stage, and good Lord what a reckless arse he is.

                      Now, in everything, there is the beginning and there is the end or the so called final form. After the knockout by marquez, this signalled the end of 'Pacman' era.

                      Enter Pacman 2.0. The years of accumulation of boxing knowledge and experience, his recent knockout, and the subtle timings and little tweak here and there; we will finally see it in it's full form in finality. I believe what freddie and his team is doing right now is to try to convince the world that his physicality/athleticism is still formidable than ever; granted, it's dwindled a little bit due to age of course, but as you've said 99.9 percent of the current fighters will still find it overwhelming.

                      Now, carry the old attributes along with the inculcated years of boxing knowledge and experience; --as long as father-time had not caught up with him; Manny should be in design or as planned far more formidable and deadly as ever as a winner, he may not be able to knockout/stop most of the fighters, but this 'Pacman 2.0' is still geared towards domination by winning decisively whether via stoppage or points NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES.

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