Floyd has never been in a Leonard vs Duran 1 type fight

[Supreme75]

Seriously?? Classic fight? Weren't you just complaining how Maidana is a "dirty ass" fighter and he fought a dirty fight and he should receive NO credit at all?

But Floyd fought a Duran/Leonard type fight?

Jesus ****ing christ.

[Larry the boss]

Might be the hats he's wearing nowadays proclaiming himself the best ever... before eeking out a decision over a 12-1 underdog.

And at anyone comparing Chino Maidana to Roberto Duran.

at 37 years old...tell me what duran,leonard,ali,hearns,srr,armstrong,greb,joe louis were doing????

[Larry the boss]

Seriously?? Classic fight? Weren't you just complaining how Maidana is a "dirty ass" fighter and he fought a dirty fight and he should receive NO credit at all?

But Floyd fought a Duran/Leonard type fight?

Jesus ****ing christ.

At 37 what were Holmes and Hagler doing?

[JDD1]

Might be the hats he's wearing nowadays proclaiming himself the best ever... before eeking out a decision over a 12-1 underdog.

And at anyone comparing Chino Maidana to Roberto Duran.

So being the best ever iho is determined more by beating maidana close at 37 than his whole body of work. Wow.

[Supreme75]

At 37 what were Holmes and Hagler doing?

Answer my question. Stop ducking and dodging. Of course Floyd is still on top and active in his career at 37, then they were at that age.

That has nothing to do with what I said in my original post though. Nor is his age the subject of this thread.

If you think last night = Leonard/Duran, you need mental help.

[DoktorSleepless]

There were like 60 threads talking about Floyd doesn't have classic fight. Now I wonder what the criticism will be.

This fight was pretty boring. Floyd having any trouble at all will get people excited during a live broadcast, but this fight barely has any rewatch value. It was mostly an ugly/dirty clinchfest of a fight. There were very few clean punches landed between the two. If this is considered if a classic for floyd...

[Larry the boss]

Answer my ****ing question. Stop ducking and dodging. Of course Floyd is still on top and active in his career at 37, then they were at that age.

That has nothing to do with what I said in my original post though. Nor is his age the subject of this thread.

Floyd just beat a guy who brought every damn dirty trick out in the book..and this thread said he was not built for that..thats why it was bummmmmmmped

[ThePrince]

at 37 years old...tell me what duran,leonard,ali,hearns,srr,armstrong,greb,joe louis were doing????

Not proclaiming themselves as TBE while getting smacked around the ring by 12-1 underdogs, that's what.

Some of them had more than double the pro fights of Floyd and if I'm not mistaken- didn't the 5'7" Duran beat Iran Barkley to win the MW championship at 37? Barkley was a 3-1 favorite.

[Tarl of Bristol]

He didn't route Duran easily. That was a competitive, close fight when Duran quit.

After the first fight, Leonard stated he was going to retire then when Duran balooned up to almost 200 pounds Ray demanded the rematch and that it be very quick. Unfortunately the people handling Roberto were idiots and allowed that and Duran was actually taking ex lax the day of the weigh in tryign to make the weight. Duran didn't have a training camp for the 2nd fight, he basically went to fat camp. Leonard admited on the 30/30 that this was his plan. Ray also admitted on the 30/30 that he purposefully played with Durans head and made him wait 9-10 years for the rubber match, at which point Duran was a mere shell of who he was.

Ray also made Tommy Hearns wait for a rematch and he refused to give one to Marvelous Marvin Hagler after their fight in Las Vegas. Years later when Marvelous Marvin was remarried and making movies in his new home country of Italy, Ray threw it out there that maybe he would consider fighting Hagler again to which Hagler just didn't biother listening because he had been retired for years and wasn't going to play Sugars game. I think Marvelous' Marvin's response was that if "Ray wants to fight now he and I can go somewhere quiet away from everyone and I'll tear his head off." Ray had no response.

Sugar Ray Leonard showed so much heart in the 1st Duran fight and in the come from behind knockout of Thomas Hearns in the 14th round of their first fight. He was a truly great fighter but his out the ring manipulations and refusals to grant rematchs against tough foes he won fights against somewhat taints his legacy. He and Floyd had one thing in common is that they both throws tantrums and become spoiled b**** unless they get their way in all aspects of negotiations.

Leonard/Duran 1 was a close fight but not as close as some say it was. Ray was given some rounds on the judges cards he shouldn't have gotten. Duran clearly won 9-10 rounds in that fight.

[Tarl of Bristol]

Good call on the bump. I have to say a prime Duran would have beat Floyd's ass last night. It was cool to see Floyd's warrior side though

Both of them at lightweight in their primes isn't even a qeustion, Roberto Duran crushes Floyd Mayweather. At 147, Floyd has way more of a chance but Floyd wouldn't have been able to beat the Roberto from Duran/Leonard 1, Roberto Duran that night was a thing of beauty. He was brutal animalistic efficiency and hatred. He took Ray apart. Unfrotunately, we never saw that Roberto Duran at that weight class ever again.