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  • mathed
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    #11
    Originally posted by WESS
    Well, there is no random blood testing for this fight...
    It's sad but I'm banking on a Vargas-DLH type result though. Take that mess, take all you want, you are just wasting your money.

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    • BUNGALOWS
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      #12
      Originally posted by mathed
      But Ariza had the "magic touch". Fortune doesn't have the same skills, he can try but that black market training isn't the same.
      He's the only conditioning coach he had during that period. How do we know it was Ariza that had the "magic touch", and not Manny just being in his prime, and also starting to hone in on the right hook, and the feints?

      I think you're reaching.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
        He's the only conditioning coach he had during that period. How do we know it was Ariza that had the "magic touch", and not Manny just being in his prime, and also starting to hone in on the right hook, and the feints?

        I think you're reaching.
        I would tend to agree with you if some involved parties weren't acting like VADA was the plague all of a sudden. Forget VADA, just random testing at all....it obviously wasn't an issue against Rios but once Tim steps back onto the scene, he plays the Marquez game. What's with all these dudes being scared to do things the old fashion way? Poor little feather-fisted Bradley doesn't seem afraid to let people in on what he's into, others seem to be a little timid when it comes to that though.

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        • BUNGALOWS
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          #14
          Originally posted by mathed
          I would tend to agree with you if some involved parties weren't acting like VADA was the plague all of a sudden. Forget VADA, just random testing at all....it obviously wasn't an issue against Rios but once Tim steps back onto the scene, he plays the Marquez game. What's with all these dudes being scared to do things the old fashion way? Poor little feather-fisted Bradley doesn't seem afraid to let people in on what he's into, others seem to be a little timid when it comes to that though.
          Again, how was Ariza the "magic touch"?

          Manny was in his prime, and mastering the right hook and feints.

          Are you mad that Bradley robbed Manny, and everyone hated him afterwards?

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            #15
            Originally posted by WESS
            Well, there is no random blood testing for this fight...
            Is this a lie?

            Nevada boxing regulators say Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley will be subject to stepped-up drug and hormone testing before their April 12 rematch in Las Vegas. Nevada Athletic Commission Chairman Francisco Aguilar said Friday the two welterweights will face unannounced pre-fight testing handled by collectors certified by the World Anti-Doping Agency. Plans call for samples to undergo isotope-ratio mass spectrometry to detect exogenous testosterone from outside the body.


            "Nevada boxing regulators say Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley will be subject to stepped-up drug and hormone testing before their April 12 rematch in Las Vegas.

            Nevada Athletic Commission Chairman Francisco Aguilar said Friday the two welterweights will face unannounced pre-fight testing handled by collectors certified by the World Anti-Doping Agency.
            "

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              #16
              Originally posted by mathed
              But Ariza had the "magic touch". Fortune doesn't have the same skills, he can try but that black market training isn't the same.
              Don't be so sure. Going by his past history Fortune seems to be very familiar with the PEDs black market.

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                #17
                Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
                Again, how was Ariza the "magic touch"?

                Manny was in his prime, and mastering the right hook and feints.

                Are you mad that Bradley robbed Manny, and everyone hated him afterwards?
                Come on, we all know why people bring Ariza into their camps, he sucks as a fitness dude, his nutritional expertise is what makes him marketable. Manny would have been in his prime in his mid to late 20's, Roach developed his skills and Ariza....well, Ariza did something but there were more talk about his shakes than his training regimen.

                I'm not mad at anything, just curious why everyone runs from legit testing when it comes to facing a feather-fisted boxer. If you don't think it's fishy, then I guess I can't say much to convince you otherwise but why the testing in the last fight but not now?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Don't be so sure. Going by his past history Fortune seems to be very familiar with the PEDs black market.
                  I'm just saying that he may be onto the Walmart brand instead of the Crate and Barrel variety.

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                  • BUNGALOWS
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    Come on, we all know why people bring Ariza into their camps, he sucks as a fitness dude, his nutritional expertise is what makes him marketable. Manny would have been in his prime in his mid to late 20's, Roach developed his skills and Ariza....well, Ariza did something but there were more talk about his shakes than his training regimen.

                    I'm not mad at anything, just curious why everyone runs from legit testing when it comes to facing a feather-fisted boxer. If you don't think it's fishy, then I guess I can't say much to convince you otherwise but why the testing in the last fight but not now?
                    Come on. Ariza wouldn't even be known if he was the strength and conditioning coach for Manny Pacquiao.

                    Oh, I didn't know they weren't both getting random drug testing. I must have missed that part.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Don't be so sure. Going by his past history Fortune seems to be very familiar with the PEDs black market.
                      Floyd is on more PEDs than any boxer.

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