How did you score Garcia vs Herrera?

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  • 1hourRun
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    #141
    Originally posted by Brz_Pugilist
    Those power shots didnt even connect.I had it 116-112 herrera.Herrera dictacted the fight with the jab.Garcia did not do enough to keep the belts.
    Surely this is a gross exaggeration how can you say none landed?

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    • Brz_Pugilist
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      #142
      Did u watch the fight? The crowd to me swayed the judges.Garcia didnt land all those power punches.Garcia and his dad's face at the end of the fight tells u all u need to know.Also the ring announcers all had it for Herrera.

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      • Fetta
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        #143
        This is not the first or the last.

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        • New England
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          #144
          i have not scored it yet. i rarely score live fights. i try and enjoy myself to the best of my ability, and that means no scoring. if you want to score a fight, you need complete focus on scoring throughout the rounds. you can't just watch the round and decide who you think won at the end. you need to approach the entire round in terms of who is winning.

          the only thing i'll say / go about about idly with scoring is calling a round close. you don't need to be scoring a fight explicitly to call a round close. you need to be scoring it to say who won close rounds.


          i may score this one soon to see what my card looks like. my feeling is that there were several close rounds, and that it's certainly not out of the question that herrera won. he looked like he had a greater measure of control over what was going down.


          herrera wasn't completely dominating. people who are asserting that are either biased, or idiots. you score the effectiveness of the punches in a boxing match. you ask "who did more damage in that round?" by that criteria, a light puncher like herrera is at a disadvantage. you need to be doing a lot more, being better defensively and scoring at a markedly geater frequency, to be winning a fight. it's not out of the question that herrera was doing both of those things.

          herrera's punches were mostly arm punches. his best punch was his jab. he pushes his right hand, and it has very little power. "arm punches" mean he's not using his feet to dig into the ground, and his hips to generate explosiveness / leverage. three of those shots can be less damaging than one right hand that's properly leveraged with a pivot on the back foot, and leverage through the hips. an arm punch will rarely end a fight. a right hand with leverage can end a fight.

          many of danny's punches were missing, or at least being rolled or absorbed on the elbows and gloves. when he did land, it was usually only one shot at once. herrera's defense was good enough to keep danny from putting twos and threes on him. no consistently big shots from danny, no / very few combinations.



          we have to ask "were herrera's more prolific and more accurate arm punches more effective than danny's few power shots?"

          again, i'm leaning toward yes, but i haven't scored any rounds yet.

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          • KING MEAT
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            #145
            Originally posted by mathed
            Garcia is done..he can't beat any viable opponent from here on out. Thurman, Peterson, Guerrero, Mayweather, Maidana...it's a wrap.
            yea its a wrap man... i mean yes he KO'd khan, but khan is khan. ill leave it to that lol.

            stylistically, matthysse is made for danny but anyone else, i dont think he can **** with after this.

            i think donaire even beats him.

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              #146
              Originally posted by KING MEAT
              yea its a wrap man... i mean yes he KO'd khan, but khan is khan. ill leave it to that lol.

              stylistically, matthysse is made for danny but anyone else, i dont think he can **** with after this.

              i think donaire even beats him.
              Do you think Peterson beats him??

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              • doubletake
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                #147
                Here's Garcia skillfully executing a right hook to Herrera's butt (and missing everything else). Skill tho.

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                • RubenSonny
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                  #148
                  I scored it for Garcia.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by New England
                    i have not scored it yet. i rarely score live fights. i try and enjoy myself to the best of my ability, and that means no scoring. if you want to score a fight, you need complete focus on scoring throughout the rounds. you can't just watch the round and decide who you think won at the end. you need to approach the entire round in terms of who is winning.

                    the only thing i'll say / go about about idly with scoring is calling a round close. you don't need to be scoring a fight explicitly to call a round close. you need to be scoring it to say who won close rounds.


                    i may score this one soon to see what my card looks like. my feeling is that there were several close rounds, and that it's certainly not out of the question that herrera won. he looked like he had a greater measure of control over what was going down.


                    herrera wasn't completely dominating. people who are asserting that are either biased, or idiots. you score the effectiveness of the punches in a boxing match. you ask "who did more damage in that round?" by that criteria, a light puncher like herrera is at a disadvantage. you need to be doing a lot more, being better defensively and scoring at a markedly geater frequency, to be winning a fight. it's not out of the question that herrera was doing both of those things.

                    herrera's punches were mostly arm punches. his best punch was his jab. he pushes his right hand, and it has very little power. "arm punches" mean he's not using his feet to dig into the ground, and his hips to generate explosiveness / leverage. three of those shots can be less damaging than one right hand that's properly leveraged with a pivot on the back foot, and leverage through the hips. an arm punch will rarely end a fight. a right hand with leverage can end a fight.

                    many of danny's punches were missing, or at least being rolled or absorbed on the elbows and gloves. when he did land, it was usually only one shot at once. herrera's defense was good enough to keep danny from putting twos and threes on him. no consistently big shots from danny, no / very few combinations.



                    we have to ask "were herrera's more prolific and more accurate arm punches more effective than danny's few power shots?"

                    again, i'm leaning toward yes, but i haven't scored any rounds yet.
                    I quit scoring fights a long time ago and I enjoy the sport a lot more, I used to be really into it but it just got me into ****** arguments with people who I felt were just looking at the surface and not really scoring as a judge would. Then there is the whole group think thing and if most people are scoring in a lackadaisical way it just feeds itself, so putting in effort to actually judge a fight properly was always wasted effort and worse made me put in effort to try and explain my point of view to people who are totally not receptive.

                    However I know close rounds when I see them and when you have rounds that are close or even fairly close for that matter the subjective element of judging comes in and people can see the same thing very differently.

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                    • sugarsmosley
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                      #150
                      i wrote a poem for DSG

                      I'm coming home

                      Coming home

                      Tell the world I'm coming home

                      Let the judges, look away

                      While im being jabbed, all ****ing day

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