Boxing fans and prejudice

[Welsh Jon]

So, I'm very convinced that Wladimir would beat Frazier. Suddenly, people label me a Klitschko fan... Uhm... No? I'm just trying to be realistic. Lewis would KO Wlad, Holyfield would KO Wlad, I'm not even a fan of Wlad, I was disgusted by the way he defeated Povetkin (although I still count it as a good win). I just can't imagine a guy as small as Frazier, who was weak against bigger hardhitting opponents, to dominate a guy bigger and more skilled than Foreman even if Foreman had more power.

I point out that Pacquiao got a better resume than Floyd and people immediately label me a Pac fanboy, WTF, I believe that Floyd would win by splitdecision if the two of them fought. Again, I'm trying to be fair, Floyd just doesn't have wins against Bradley and Barrera.

I point out that the oldschool fighters aren't as good as many modern fighters, due to them losing to journeymen or maybe only having 1 notable win or just having all-around bad resumes like Quarry. Suddenly, people think "you haven't studied boxing history properly!!1!", maan, stop whining, I just appreciate quality, Lewis wouldn't be as great if he ran around losing to journeyman and had 1 single good victory... I still rate Ali and Foreman highly.

I'm a black guy and some of my favourite boxers today are Froch, Kessler, Calzaghe, Abraham, Ward (he's half white), Martinez, etc... Yet I have been accused of being racist towards both white boxers and black boxers, I mean, WTF, why can't people just stop giving a **** about race? When I see Froch beating Taylor, I don't think "aww, that white prick is beating my brother!", I see a good boxer beating a less good boxer, when I speak highly of Foreman I don't think "man, it feels good that a black man did so well!", I just liked his way of boxing.

Boxing fans are seriously ******ed and you can't have an opinion without being deemed ******, Mayweather fanboy, Pacquiao fanboy, Klitschko fanboy, racist, etc.

I'm getting sick and tired of it!!

Mate stay out of Pac/Mayweather debates they lead only to needless aggro, there are just too many fanboys on both sides that won't see sense!

I have seen nothing to suggest you are racist or ******, but I don't agree with ou on Frazier. Smoking Joe's head movement is in another galaxy to anyone that Wlad has ever fought. He may be smaller than anyone Wlad has fought, but his skillset is in a diffent league.

Also Foreman fights nothing like Wlad. That Frazier got crushed by Foreman has no baring on what might happen if prime Frazier had ever fought prime Wlad.

[SoulByThePound]

Actually if you Criticize Floyd they will label you a racist, or a Filipino, or a Pactart. They already assume just because you criticize Floyd you are the above. Many guys who criticize Floyd are not even Pac fanatics.

I criticize Pacquiao, Floyd, anyone when they screw up. I am non biased.

The ones who claim those things are usually Race driven black power guys they are few but they are the loudest always dissing every non black fighter and Pacquiao non stop.

lol dude you like the main one who trade and or lash out insults you call black posters(Americans) blackpower posters

[MGMGRAND]

Actually if you Criticize Floyd they will label you a racist, or a Filipino, or a Pactart. They already assume just because you criticize Floyd you are the above. Many guys who criticize Floyd are not even Pac fanatics.

I criticize Pacquiao, Floyd, anyone when they screw up. I am non biased.

The ones who claim those things are usually Race driven black power guys they are few but they are the loudest always dissing every non black fighter and Pacquiao non stop.

Im pretty sure I have been labeled as being black before just because I defended Floyd once or twice.

[MindGame]

I've noticed the racist undertones myself..... It bothers me as well.... I've come to the conclusion that individual sports have the most racist and nationalistic issues....

Team sports have a good mix of members..... You'll get the soccer insanity for national teams.... But as a American in a big city ( Chicago ) I really enjoy the pro teams (Except the Cubs, but my 2 best friends are Cub fans, I'll take my White Sox)....... If I was born in another City, I'm sure I'd like those teams as well, regardless of the race of it's players....

I enjoy watching sports and playing sports..... You could care less what race or nationality a player is as long as he/they give you blood and guts on the field of play...... Simple as that, just win baby !!!

Individual sports are marketed differently..... They seen to target a more stereotypical demographic..... They'll sell the "Mexican fighter" to the Mexican fan..... I remember from back in the day, it was the "Mexican American" fighter (Oscar De La Hoya) vs the "Mexico Mexican"(Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.)...... Now it's French Canadian verses British boxers...... And so on...

They're just trying to sell tickets by solidifying fan bases..... When they oppose one another, then you have 2 large blocks of ready made fans to buy tickets and PPV..... I don't think people dislike each other nearly as much as we are led to believe......

Variety is the ****e of life my friends....... Don't be told how to think..... In the end all of humanity is on the same team, consider that.....