I think Angulo suffers from some kind of depression--I don't think it was fixed

[BoxingGenius27]

You're saying he's depressed? He was crying a lot when talking about his daughter

He was also crying when talking about Virgil Hunter as a father figure.

He was also crying when talking about being detained for 7 months and kept away from his daughter and what they did to him.

He was also crying when talking to his daughter when she was in his lap.

He just seemed very very emotional... I think he needed or needs medication or some kind of counseling. No matter how you look at it, he didn't seem to have the mentality of a fighter getting ready to go to war.

[BoxingGenius27]

Canelo looked good and proved himself a legit top guy around the weight class. Kirkland stopped Angulo too and really beat him down. But Canelo did beat Angulo down over the course of the fight, and Angulo never really troubled Canelo too much. But Angulo really troubled Kirkland in their fight and almost stopped him.

I really want to see Canelo vs Lara. That's a fight that needs to happen.

Lara has beaten Williams, Trout, Angulo, and should have beaten Vanes as well. While Canelo has beaten Trout and Angulo. They clearly are the two best at the weight aside from Mayweather, and maybe Molina.

That being said, if Lara and Ishe fight in May, I highly highly doubt Canelo and he fight in July.

Canelo will probably fight Molina if he can get his legal issues fixed. And I'm cool with that fight. Molina has arguably beaten Lara, Kirkland, and Ishe. He's legit.

Angulo won 1:30 out of 6 rounds against Kirkland. I gave Angulo 3 rounds against Canelo before the stoppage.

I agree that Canelo should be considered in the top of the division, but I still think if we're talking resume, Kirkland is slightly behind Lara as top in the division with Canelo following behind; that's if we're talking proven resume's at 154.

[BoxingGenius27]

Good post!!!

Adding to that ....

That was by far, the worst I have ever seen Angulo perform in a fight. He was lethargic, seemingly uninterested, displayed no energy and really no desire to fight. I'm not going to go so far as to state that the fix was in, but that was not the same Angulo. Virgil Hunter, with his somewhat questionable corner conversations could do little to snap Angulo out of his funk. So, I'm willing to accept that there were some forces at work that Angulo couldn't overcome. And whatever it was, it sapped all his energy.

Having to fight Canelo when you're not there mentally, or physically is a daunting task. No wonder the fight played out as it did.

Canelo on the other hand, fought as expected post Floyd. He came out with a lot of energy and desire to bring the pain, and he was very sharp. And contrary to the silly counter-points ... I think now is the right time to take Lara up on his challenge.

Not the fight I expected at all, thanks to a very subdued Angulo -- Who gave his very best interpretation of a walking stiff.

I agree arraamis, he just didn't seem to be there mentally.