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Did Pacquiao not deserve at least 1 win against Marquez?
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Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View PostRewatch it in HD slo-mo you mean?
edit: **** even on paper this is the most clear victory for manny he connected alot more punches
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Weird thing, I watched the 3rd fight at a friends with lots of people and thought Marquez beat him easy..When I watched it at home alone the next Saturday I had Manny winning 115-113? Weird, but I thought a lot of those rounds were very close, both landing clean shots..I don't know, did anyone else give that fight to Manny after re watching?
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both have won,, the series is 2-1-1 for manny but in my view its 2-2..
Manny should have one the 1st fight by a point,, the 10-6 1st round was too much for jmm to overcome, even though he outboxed manny from about the 3rd round on and scoring rounds i have it 7-5 in favor of jmm but those kds in the first round sway it to manny favor by a slim margin
2nd fight was a draw if not for the kd early in the fight,, I thought both guys had won 6 apiece but the knockdown gave manny a 114-113 win
3rd fight was the easiest to score IMO.. it was a clear 115-113 or 116-112 win for jmm.. jmm got robbed in that fight
4th fight jmm via ko
So i have it 2-2
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Originally posted by way2strong View Postit doesn't matter what resolution rewatch the fight on youtube 480p and there will still only be one clear winner and thats pac outlanding him the entire fight
edit: **** even on paper this is the most clear victory for manny he connected alot more punches
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Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View PostWeird thing, I watched the 3rd fight at a friends with lots of people and thought Marquez beat him easy..When I watched it at home alone the next Saturday I had Manny winning 115-113? Weird, but I thought a lot of those rounds were very close, both landing clean shots..I don't know, did anyone else give that fight to Manny after re watching?
The third is easily the most controversial therefore the one that Manny deserves the least credit for. Technically you could say he deserved the 1st fight due to the judging error, but a draw would be a fair call in that fight anyway if we are honest, both guys deserved that one hence the official ruling I guess. The 2nd fight I believe Manny won and deserves the call for. Not the 3rd however, it is shrouded in to much controversy and debate to credit him with the W indefinitely. If there is any claim for JMM to be 'robbed' it is ONLY the third one in my opinion.
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Basically I feel as though the splitting of credit is like this...
The deserving of being rewarded the W in I could justifiably go to both.
The credit for the W in II could justifiably go to Pac.
The credit for a W in III could be justifiably split between both.
The credit for a W in IV is justifiably Marquez'.
So yeah, if someone came to me with an argument for Manny deserving at least two W's over JMM, I wouldn't argue too much as long as they also acknowledge the credit that has to go to JMM on the flispside also. Hence the great rivalry and memorable fights...
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Originally posted by _original_ View PostAlmost every significant boxer from past generations to today, (you know, people who actually box for a living) publicly stated or tweeted that Marquez won the third fight. Andre Ward, Sugar Ray Leonard, George Foreman, Amir Khan, De La Hoya, ect. I guess they don't know shit about boxing according to e-warriors like you.
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