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Did Pacquiao not deserve at least 1 win against Marquez?

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  • #11
    The draw he had against Marquez should of been a win for Pacquiao and the third fight aswell was a fight that I seen as a clear win for the Pacman.
    The 2nd could of gone either way and I just think the judges preferred the work-rate of Pacquiao.
    Marquez may of out landed him overall on punch-stats but fights are scored round by round and the fact Marquez was dropped in that fight never done him any favors.

    I see it as 3-1 for Pacquiao over the diva.

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    • #12
      The fact that these guys had close controversial fights is the reason they had a great bunch of fights. You can't say Manny won them all outright and you can't say Marquez won them all outright. They have both had their success in their fights, check the results, even the results demonstrate two evenly matched guys.

      A draw for both in I. A split decision for Manny in II. A majority decision for Manny III and a Knockout for Juan IV...great matchup of fighters over a series.

      As for your question I believe Manny could be said to deserve his win in II, could have got the nod in I and people wouldn't have complained much, but the end result of III was very doubtful. And IV was an outright loss as we know. So yeah, he does deserve credit for at least one of his JMM fights, as Juan does likewise.

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      • #13
        I watched those fights a million times and I always had Pac winning the 1st, JMM the 2nd, and third is the hardest to score for me.

        Regardless, JMM is the winner of this saga.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Xpert View Post
          I have honestly not watched every Pac-Marquez fight, except fight 3 and 4. To me, Marquez won fight 3 and I guess we all know about the 4th...

          I have not watched fight 1 and 2. Honestly, I simply can't comprehend how Marquez could have been robbed 3 times, I think there is some fanboyism from his fans involved. Didn't Pacquiao at least deserve the victory in their second fight?
          Manny won the first fight but the judges made a mistake. That's well documented. He also won the second fight. Close but clear victory for PAC. JMM was winning their third fight and blew it in the final rounds. And in the forth fight PAC looked like he was going to finish him but he got the **** out!

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          • #15
            Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
            He was every bit as deserving of winning the first 2 fights as Marquez.
            This is true. I thought he won the first fight pretty clearly. The second fight was anybodies fight, either guy could have won. I think Marquez won the third fight, close but clear.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Red Cyclone View Post
              The draw he had against Marquez should of been a win for Pacquiao and the third fight aswell was a fight that I seen as a clear win for the Pacman.
              The 2nd could of gone either way and I just think the judges preferred the work-rate of Pacquiao.
              Marquez may of out landed him overall on punch-stats but fights are scored round by round and the fact Marquez was dropped in that fight never done him any favors.

              I see it as 3-1 for Pacquiao over the diva.
              3-1 for Pac requires some awfully bias scoring, IMO. Marquez won the third fight pretty clearly. I think I had him winning 8 rounds in that fight.

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              • #17
                i scored all 4 fights for the pacman. people love a good underdog story thats why they pretend marquez won. this aint rocky! this is reality! 4-0 pacman

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                • #18
                  the draw in the first fight was a fair score. marquez won the others.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by SthPaw View Post
                    The fact that these guys had close controversial fights is the reason they had a great bunch of fights. You can't say Manny won them all outright and you can't say Marquez won them all outright. They have both had their success in their fights, check the results, even the results demonstrate two evenly matched guys.

                    A draw for both in I. A split decision for Manny in II. A majority decision for Manny III and a Knockout for Juan IV...great matchup of fighters over a series.

                    As for your question I believe Manny could be said to deserve his win in II, could have got the nod in I and people wouldn't have complained much, but the end result of III was very doubtful. And IV was an outright loss as we know. So yeah, he does deserve credit for at least one of his JMM fights, as Juan does likewise.

                    What this guy said is accurate. First two for pac and 3&4 for JMM

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      i scored all 4 fights for the pacman. people love a good underdog story thats why they pretend marquez won. this aint rocky! this is reality! 4-0 pacman
                      Was pacman not ko'd in atleast on of the fights lol

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