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  • 4th Judge
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    4th Judge app needs development help

    Let’s change the game of boxing! That is our new boxing apps slogan, and that is really our dream. That’s why we need your, the real boxing fans, help. We are looking for people to be part of our focus group and help develop this app that we call “4th Judge”.

    We only have 3 criteria’s:
    1: You love boxing
    2: You are on facebook
    3: You use apps on your Smartphone

    What is the app? It’s an online app driven boxing community, which have the boxing judge’s scorecard in focus. We don’t always think the judges’ get the fight scoring completely right, so that’s why we want to make a community of fans that can show and debate who really won the fight. We want to give boxing fight that 4th scorecard.

    If you are just a bit interested find us on facebook. Just search “4th judge”. There you will find more info and a promo video. Remember this is just for fun, we just need you help as much as you like we have no demands other than the 3 listed a top. We just want to bring fight fans together and build the perfect app with your help.

    Please visit “4th Judge” on facebook!
  • toshmurph
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    Good idea but how do you deal with biased nuthuggers? I mean I'm a huge Marquez fan, but how would the app combat the fans like the ones who scored the Bradley fight for Marquez for example?

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    • Daddy T
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      #3
      Originally posted by toshmurph
      Good idea but how do you deal with biased nuthuggers? I mean I'm a huge Marquez fan, but how would the app combat the fans like the ones who scored the Bradley fight for Marquez for example?
      basically this ... enough of canelo's fans voting would have him beating floyd on this 4th judge's card.

      I suppose
      1. if you added something where one person would only be able to vote on every 2nd fight involving a particular fighter - unless they have a lot of other votes on other fights in between

      2. and then to avoid spam votes - People have their votes weighted ... i.e. voters who consistently vote in the major minority e.g. say somebody votes for bradley over pac ... or heaven forbid canelo over mayweather where 99.9% of everybody else votes the other way have the'r next vote reduced to say 1/2 a vote or something and if they continue in this trend their votes eventually become meaningless ... conversly people who seem to vote consistently for the perceived correct winner have their vote weighted in the other way so eventually their vote is equal to 9 or 10 sh*itty ******ed/nuthugger votes.

      3. to increase the accuracy of point 2 ... a round by round voting system could be brought in under the same criteria as above ... this is kept private to avoid people simply copying the popular votes (to increase the weight of their vote) and so ensure the scoring is legit ... some nuthugger votes round 1 of pac marquez 1 for marquez where 100% of everybody else has it the other way then their vote for the whole fight is disregarded.
      Last edited by Daddy T; 02-28-2014, 06:07 AM.

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      • 4th Judge
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        Originally posted by toshmurph
        Good idea but how do you deal with biased nuthuggers? I mean I'm a huge Marquez fan, but how would the app combat the fans like the ones who scored the Bradley fight for Marquez for example?
        We really have been thinking a lot about this problem. The most important think is a high credibility.

        We are working on a advanced mathematically formula/matrix to avoid bias towards a specific fighter.

        Hope you will join us on Facebook, and be part of perfecting this app.

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        • Scary
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          I like the idea, but the 4th judge would be just as flawed as the 3 others. As people say, biased fans kinda messes with the idea, because you can't really filter it.

          2 likes on Facebook ain't gonna change the game though…

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            #6
            Good luck with combating nuthuggers!

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            • 4th Judge
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              #7
              Originally posted by House of Stone
              basically this ... enough of canelo's fans voting would have him beating floyd on this 4th judge's card.

              I suppose
              1. if you added something where one person would only be able to vote on every 2nd fight involving a particular fighter - unless they have a lot of other votes on other fights in between

              2. and then to avoid spam votes - People have their votes weighted ... i.e. voters who consistently vote in the major minority e.g. say somebody votes for bradley over pac ... or heaven forbid canelo over mayweather where 99.9% of everybody else votes the other way have the'r next vote reduced to say 1/2 a vote or something and if they continue in this trend their votes eventually become meaningless ... conversly people who seem to vote consistently for the perceived correct winner have their vote weighted in the other way so eventually their vote is equal to 9 or 10 sh*itty ******ed/nuthugger votes.

              3. to increase the accuracy of point 2 ... a round by round voting system could be brought in under the same criteria as above ... this is kept private to avoid people simply copying the popular votes (to increase the weight of their vote) and so ensure the scoring is legit.
              Thanks for great ideas! They will definitely be part of our formula to ensure a perfect scoring system without fans of a certain fighter dictating the 4th judge scorecard.

              Hope you are joint us 2 on Facebook

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              • 4th Judge
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                #8
                Originally posted by Scary
                I like the idea, but the 4th judge would be just as flawed as the 3 others. As people say, biased fans kinda messes with the idea, because you can't really filter it.

                2 likes on Facebook ain't gonna change the game though…
                We are trying at least and sure we only got 2 likes right now, but we just started the site 2 hours ago Give it time

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                • Scary
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 4th Judge
                  We are trying at least and sure we only got 2 likes right now, but we just started the site 2 hours ago Give it time
                  You need to really think about how to solve this problem, wether it's like a "ranking" from other users like karma or something else. You need to make some kind of filter so that what you get is what you need, elsewhere it'll just be another forum and the idea goes out the window.

                  You could also do some listing of every scorecard the poster has posted, and then rate each scorecard and from that give the user a ranking. If you are in minus/bad karma then you can't vote.

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                    #10
                    Maybe in your results you could break down in percentages how many of these votes for fighters were from previous biased voters.

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