Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: I'm Used To Facing Bigger, Stronger Foes

[NearHypnos]

Cotto beats Williams. Hes too good an inside fighter to lose to a big man who tries to fight like a little guy.

and to say the only way to determine if Cotto is better is to question whether or not Cotto could beat those two is ridiculous. we're talking P4P here. Thats like comparing Mayweather and Tyson and saying the only way to know if Mayweather is better is by Mayweather beating Tyson. Pavlik is truly a light heavy, even cruiser. Cotto is already taking on a much bigger foe in Martinez. P4P theres no question Cotto is a much more skilled fighter than Kelly Pavlik and Paul Williams. BTW Mosley had only lost to Vernon and Winky at the time Cotto fought him. Mosley would then go on to be the only person to ever stop Margarito, becoming the #1 welter in the world. No one credible scored Cotto-Mosley for Mosley. Good fight but Cotto clearly won.

Cotto didnt "clearly" win it was a close fight (I had cotto by one if I remember). Mosley beating Marg just goes to show that even a faded great fighter can crush a dude with the right matchup.

Cotto doesnt outfight P Will... P Will out fought marg so I'm not going to say Cotto (was was beaten by a lesser version of p Will in Marg) beats p will. People forget williams could crack too, unlike Marg who would just wear you out. At 147? P will potentially crushes Cotto...

And p4p no longer needed when they are in the same weight class now (pavlik). Even then Pavlik was a huge puncher with a good jab and sound skills. Even p4p I doubt Cotto outwills or outfight Pavlik to tell you the truth...he's also not a left handed "slick" fighter so why would anyone favor him over p will at 147 or 154??

Look, I get it you think SUPER highly of Cotto but to say he beats p will or pavlik (even p4p in pavs case) is overrating him by a LOT

[mistermartin]

In looking at this fight...One can look at several attributes & disadvantages on both sides. W/ Martinez u have age, injuries, high paced style, hands low reflex oriented defense all poss working against him. In Cotto u see age...wear & tear..poor stamina as poss disadvantages.

Both men certainly have strong attributes. Martinez has speed...(hand & foot)...power...movement...size & a smart corner w/ good intelligence on his side. Not to mention the southpaw stance which will make Miguel a Sucker for the straight left.

Cotto has patience...good balance...power...excellent timing (his biggest asset vs Sergio)...A strong boxing pedigree... A southpaw in the orthodox stance which put sergio instantly in danger of a fight ending liver shot from miguel's power hand. (southpaws livers are always vunerable bc of the stance) & not to mention an offensive minded & intelligent corner in Roach....& possibly manny pacquiao to spar w/.

When I analyze this fight. Cotto's newfound aggression would play into martinez's hands. I could see cotto moving fwd w/ a low stance & a high guard. But i could also see his lack of defense be his undoing....along w/ fading down the 2nd half. Martinez is like a bigger version of pacquiao...very hard & sharp puncher....People forget he hit Cintron so fast & hard he thought the punch he got hit w/ was a skull butt. I can see martinez beating cotto to the punch all night & catching him in between shots cotto tries to time & fire off.

I can also see cotto being aggressive & cutting the ring & catching serg w/ hard well timed jabs...laying back & picking spots since people who have avoided getting knocked out by just not engaging w/ martinez ) But I don't see much else miguel could have success w/ other than banking on injuries & the timing of this fight wearing Martinez down. But Cotto fades himself so that would be a poor strategy.

I'm going to be at this fight...Hopefully having gabe Sarmiento back in his corner creates some freshness to SM's camp. We already see how Wild card has invigorated miguel. I expect a competitive & explosive fight. Miguel hurt both Manny & floyd in their fights. So I know he'll be dangerous. Martinez has been fighting not only middleweights...but big middleweights during his reign. & made them gunshy.....Martinez is not a real MW...He's a tweener. & cotto is not a real Super MW...He's a lazy welter. History has proven when SM is exited about an opponent he's scary good. As well an offensive minded cotto is a major problem. But Martinez has never been battered like cotto has....(twice). I fully expect cotto's spirit to bend when he realizes martinez's power. Both men are very brave & strong & elite. This should be an excellent clash. But in the end...cotto won't be able to stand up to the power in martinez's hands....especially as his stamina fails. I see it ending badly for him. Even a broken hand doesn't prevent martinez from throwing hard & still using the hand. He beat the **** outta JCC jr. for 2/3 of the fight w/ a busted paw. That dude was a cruiser that night.

[El Angel]

Never fought a more skilled fighter in your career than what you'll be facing June 7th.

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

Cotto didnt "clearly" win it was a close fight (I had cotto by one if I remember). Mosley beating Marg just goes to show that even a faded great fighter can crush a dude with the right matchup.

Cotto doesnt outfight P Will... P Will out fought marg so I'm not going to say Cotto (was was beaten by a lesser version of p Will in Marg) beats p will. People forget williams could crack too, unlike Marg who would just wear you out. At 147? P will potentially crushes Cotto...

And p4p no longer needed when they are in the same weight class now (pavlik). Even then Pavlik was a huge puncher with a good jab and sound skills. Even p4p I doubt Cotto outwills or outfight Pavlik to tell you the truth...he's also not a left handed "slick" fighter so why would anyone favor him over p will at 147 or 154??

Look, I get it you think SUPER highly of Cotto but to say he beats p will or pavlik (even p4p in pavs case) is overrating him by a LOT

You can throw all the stats out the freaking window when it comes to this fight. This fight is Cotto Vs Margarito II, this fight is personal on both sides
but you can't ignore the fact that Sergio is coming into the lions den and that's 15 thousand Puerto Rican's in one place, there's nowhere to go. He's going to ask passion for mersey and look for someone to throw him a rope. He's going to have kill Cotto and with the faith I have in his training and strategies going into this fight I don't see him losing, it's not happening. Not on that night or on FREAKING RICAN WEEKEND..

PRPP

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

In looking at this fight...One can look at several attributes & disadvantages on both sides. W/ Martinez u have age, injuries, high paced style, hands low reflex oriented defense all poss working against him. In Cotto u see age...wear & tear..poor stamina as poss disadvantages.

Both men certainly have strong attributes. Martinez has speed...(hand & foot)...power...movement...size & a smart corner w/ good intelligence on his side. Not to mention the southpaw stance which will make Miguel a Sucker for the straight left.

Cotto has patience...good balance...power...excellent timing (his biggest asset vs Sergio)...A strong boxing pedigree... A southpaw in the orthodox stance which put sergio instantly in danger of a fight ending liver shot from miguel's power hand. (southpaws livers are always vunerable bc of the stance) & not to mention an offensive minded & intelligent corner in Roach....& possibly manny pacquiao to spar w/.

When I analyze this fight. Cotto's newfound aggression would play into martinez's hands. I could see cotto moving fwd w/ a low stance & a high guard. But i could also see his lack of defense be his undoing....along w/ fading down the 2nd half. Martinez is like a bigger version of pacquiao...very hard & sharp puncher....People forget he hit Cintron so fast & hard he thought the punch he got hit w/ was a skull butt. I can see martinez beating cotto to the punch all night & catching him in between shots cotto tries to time & fire off.

I can also see cotto being aggressive & cutting the ring & catching serg w/ hard well timed jabs...laying back & picking spots since people who have avoided getting knocked out by just not engaging w/ martinez ) But I don't see much else miguel could have success w/ other than banking on injuries & the timing of this fight wearing Martinez down. But Cotto fades himself so that would be a poor strategy.

I'm going to be at this fight...Hopefully having gabe Sarmiento back in his corner creates some freshness to SM's camp. We already see how Wild card has invigorated miguel. I expect a competitive & explosive fight. Miguel hurt both Manny & floyd in their fights. So I know he'll be dangerous. Martinez has been fighting not only middleweights...but big middleweights during his reign. & made them gunshy.....Martinez is not a real MW...He's a tweener. & cotto is not a real Super MW...He's a lazy welter. History has proven when SM is exited about an opponent he's scary good. As well an offensive minded cotto is a major problem. But Martinez has never been battered like cotto has....(twice). I fully expect cotto's spirit to bend when he realizes martinez's power. Both men are very brave & strong & elite. This should be an excellent clash. But in the end...cotto won't be able to stand up to the power in martinez's hands....especially as his stamina fails. I see it ending badly for him. Even a broken hand doesn't prevent martinez from throwing hard & still using the hand. He beat the **** outta JCC jr. for 2/3 of the fight w/ a busted paw. That dude was a cruiser that night.

WTF Stamina? SM hasn't ran in a year because his left knee hurts when he walks, let alone fought anyone in a year. If you want to talk about stamina, lets first look and see how that knee reacts to those bombs coming his way. I agree it's going to be explosive but like I've said in the past. I really like this version of MC especially having Roach and Manny to spar with. He's going in there to win for more reason then one and when you sprinkle in that animosity it's going to be WAR with COTTO being at home..Tu loco y loco, yo, tanguilo..

PRPP

[mistermartin]

WTF Stamina? SM hasn't ran in a year because his left knee hurts when he walks, let alone fought anyone in a year. If you want to talk about stamina, lets first look and see how that knee reacts to those bombs coming his way. I agree it's going to be explosive but like I've said in the past. I really like this version of MC especially having Roach and Manny to spar with. He's going in there to win for more reason then one and when you sprinkle in that animosity it's going to be WAR with COTTO being at home..Tu loco y loco, yo, tanguilo..

PRPP

Name all the big fights Cotto has won...then name the fights where he hasn't faded late in the fight. You can even look at the second Margarito fight & see where tony (who didn't even come close to landing as much in the first fight) began to get momentum & started breaking miguel down. I personally think TR protected their investment & got that fight stopped early as a precaution. But no matter. Do you really think Martinez would broadcast a weakness to the world & to Cotto if he were unable to do wut he does?? Sergio is gonna batter Miguel. That aggrssion is going to feed right into his hands. It's gonna thousands of u Ricans walking out maad as ****!! on that night.

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

Sergio hasn't fought since April 2013, when he got the benefit of the doubt (or a gift) at home in Argentina against Martin Murray. After that fight, a ******-up, aging Martinez decided to take an extended break from the ring to allow his body to heal. That could go one of two ways on June 7: either the time off will have done Martinez some good, or at 39 his body is simply wearing out and potentially robbing him of his speed and reflexes, which have been the key assets in getting him to the top of the sport.

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

Name all the big fights Cotto has won...then name the fights where he hasn't faded late in the fight. You can even look at the second Margarito fight & see where tony (who didn't even come close to landing as much in the first fight) began to get momentum & started breaking miguel down. I personally think TR protected their investment & got that fight stopped early as a precaution. But no matter. Do you really think Martinez would broadcast a weakness to the world & to Cotto if he were unable to do wut he does?? Sergio is gonna batter Miguel. That aggrssion is going to feed right into his hands. It's gonna thousands of u Ricans walking out maad as ****!! on that night.

There you go again with breaking down...The only one who is breaking down my man is SM at 39 years old and with all those fights with ALL those big fighters have done nothing but taken years out him and we already know what he looked like the last time out and couple that with the lack of training due to not 1 but 2 knee surgeries to his left knee. The last time I seen an athlete with those knee injuries was RGIII and you saw what happen to him when he came back to soon. The only mad muther***er's will be those European Argentino's because that a make 2 Puerto Rican's that have taken down another one of there few World Champions.

PRPP

[mistermartin]

There you go again with breaking down...The only one who is breaking down my man is SM at 39 years old and with all those fights with ALL those big fighters have done nothing but taken years out him and we already know what he looked like the last time out and couple that with the lack of training due to not 1 but 2 knee surgeries to his left knee. The last time I seen an athlete with those knee injuries was RGIII and you saw what happen to him when he came back to soon. The only mad muther***er's will be those European Argentino's because that a make 2 Puerto Rican's that have taken down another one of there few World Champions.

PRPP

Sir. Name one fight...or in fact any combination of fights where serg has taken the punishment Miguel took in either the pacquiao fight or Margarito fight..Mentally...emotionally...and physically. The punishment from those two fights plus the clottey fight (cotto's gift) is enough to end this discussion on wear & tear between the two.

[redmyth79]

Paul Williams is the best fighter Martinez has ever fought.

very true!! glad to see somebody know what they r talking about. All jmw/ww/ and even mw avoided paul. paul won the 1st but tried 2 knock him out quick the 2nd time and got Caught just like Jones/Taver2 serg. would have lost imo if he didnt get caught. As for serg./cotto cotto is a better fighter then williams but big reach disadvatage!!! I am pulling for cotto but he has a big up hill battle to win. Will be interesting match if cotto can get in on serg.