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Could Floyd Mayweather get outboxed? (If so, by who?)

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  • #21
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Floyd is hard to oiutbox because he cares not one bit if the crowd are entertained. He also cares about self prerservation more than any other boxer. If he fougtht a featherweight boxer he would still be terrified to be hit, just like he didn't want to go after the smaller JMM.

    Sometimes when boxers are circling and not throwing punches the crowd starts booing sometimes because of no action, similar to awkward silences when two people have nothing to say to each other.
    Floyd would never feel awkward in those stand offs with boxers, whereas his opponent would probably throw a punch cos of what he thinks the crowd might think. Getting a bit deep here.

    So you might not outbox him but there are many boxers who coiuld beat the bejesus out of him, if only Floyd sought them, guys with good tanks and don't gas like the people he chooses.
    I have to ask, who are these "guys" with good tanks and great stamina that will beat the bejesus out of him? Nothing too exciting about Floyds fights, but the man will show you how to win and make the other guy's boxing skills look amateurish. He has proved this time and time again as a professional. Floyd is not a power puncher, he uses his skills to his advantage. A power puncher will use their power to their advantage, you won't see Rios attempting a technical boxing match with great defense and movement, hitting and not being hit, because he needs to have a strategy and skillset he can realistically use. Stop hating. Floyd Mayweather will not be beat to a pulp by anybody.

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    • #22
      Floyd is a guy in balance.. Between offense and defense, though more defensive leaning.


      For that reason it's a guy that's unbalanced that will beat him. Someone very very aggressive... Like Maidana yes has a reasonable chance of overwhelming Floyd's balanced approach with wreckless destruction and relentless pressure ala Castillo, Jesus Chavez, and to a lesser extent because he also tries to box, Cotto. Alternatively.. A very defensive guy with movement can also beat Floyd if they are more defensive and have better movement than Floyd. Perhaps a prime pernell or something like that. Problem with Khan being that defensive mover to beat Floyd is his defense is very leaky. He is not Floyd's better at much of anything save flailing around and looking like Bambi on ice when he's hit good.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by john_uphold View Post
        Mad enough to call the guy a **** lol. Why though? He never had the style to beat Floyd, even back then. Pac made all of the relevant boxers at the time look soft, but Floyd is Floyd. The technical master who will slow your average punch rate down and do whatever has to be done to win. Let's just be honest. Pacman never had it, and if they do fight, he will lose in a lopsided decision. He definitely would not have knocked out Floyd if that was his other option of winning. Outpoint Floyd on the cards though!!!?
        Southpaw, laser left, angles, Floyd has to use high guard, Pac has stamina, and doesn't quit like a girl.

        Put 2 and 2 together.

        Styles make fights. Manny would've given him hell. And please STFU about Floyd nullifying people's offenses. When he can't, he puts his back on the ropes like a women, and Pac would've been the last person to do that to.

        Watch the Baldomir fight, and just replace Pac with Baldomir. Boxing is a game of inches. It doesn't take God to beat someone. It just takes someone that's a tad bit better than the guys you've faced. Game of inches. It only takes a guy that's a millisecond faster than the guys you fought to catch you. Game of inches. Pac is levels above anyone he's faced.

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        • #24
          And Floyd's plan B of pressuring the southpaw wouldn't work on Pac. Pac would chew his ass up, and spit his ass out.

          And I feel like I'm talking to Larry's alt. Be a fuggin man and debate me 1 on 1. Stop using your corny alts ya pussi boy.

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          • #25
            I believe Pacquiao outboxes him and pretty much shuts him down with his offense.

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            • #26
              Montell Griffin did not outbox James Toney. He robbed James Toney is more like it. Toney landed the harder punches in both fights.

              There's plenty of guys historically around 147 and 154 who could outbox Floyd. Below that weight I dont see anyone else really except for Sweet Pea.

              Right now? Maybe Lara. Martinez of a few years ago could have.

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              • #27
                Fight baldomirs and ghosts and look like a genius.

                Fight anyone with a pulse ,think twice.

                Floyd is a good fighter ,but he ruined his own legacy.

                Everyone got forced fed slow flat footers with head first defense.

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                • #28
                  Lara 8-4


                  Dude will never fight lara. But both got al haymon,but like with PW
                  Al haymon steers him away.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post
                    Fight baldomirs and ghosts and look like a genius.

                    Fight anyone with a pulse ,think twice.

                    Floyd is a good fighter ,but he ruined his own legacy.

                    Everyone got forced fed slow flat footers with head first defense.
                    Maidana is more substantial than ghost and baldomir though. I never understand when someone says Maidana is like them. Please explain this mentality.

                    Ghost's fighting style is all bark no bite at world level. He tries to be imposing but has small pop and his shots are easy to see and time. Baldomir, well he was relentless but never had the chin power and fighting brain chino has. And people say chino is slow (I disagree based on recent footage) but baldomir was Sllllow.

                    Maidana is closer to a prime Castillo with some difference in ring generalship and power or a Jesus Chavez with a lot more power than either of those two you guys keep hashing up.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Syf View Post
                      Floyd is a guy in balance.. Between offense and defense, though more defensive leaning.


                      For that reason it's a guy that's unbalanced that will beat him. Someone very very aggressive...
                      Like Maidana yes has a reasonable chance of overwhelming Floyd's balanced approach with wreckless destruction and relentless pressure ala Castillo, Jesus Chavez, and to a lesser extent because he also tries to box, Cotto. Alternatively.. A very defensive guy with movement can also beat Floyd if they are more defensive and have better movement than Floyd. Perhaps a prime pernell or something like that. Problem with Khan being that defensive mover to beat Floyd is his defense is very leaky. He is not Floyd's better at much of anything save flailing around and looking like Bambi on ice when he's hit good.
                      Seconded.

                      You articulated that very, very well. I never looked at it in terms of balance. Very good.

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