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Who would be P4P number 1 right now if Roy Jones was in his prime?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
    Roy could beat every HW except the Klitschkos and maybe Haye.
    Roy is great and everything, and Haye is clearly nothing on him all time P4P, but 'maybe' Haye? I'm sorry, but Haye would destroy Roy at HW. Also, you would not beat every heavyweight. Granted the division sucks, but Roy's chin combined with the fact that his power wouldn't bother most heavy's and the fact that he was not unhittable would mean he'd get iced in at least some of the fights against current top heavies.
    Last edited by stefl14; 02-20-2014, 04:01 PM.

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    • #32
      Roy Jones can clean up the HW to an extent, but if he got clocked by Wilder (or any of the giants) he would be lights out.

      Imagine the schooling guys like Seth Mitchell would receive.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
        Roy is great and everything, and Haye is clearly nothing on him all time P4P, but 'maybe' Haye? I'm sorry, but Haye would destroy Roy at HW.

        if he can catch him...if not, Roy wins enough rounds and beats Haye on points...and if Haye can't catch him, Roy looks good doing so

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        • #34
          Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
          if he can catch him...if not, Roy wins enough rounds and beats Haye on points...and if Haye can't catch him, Roy looks good doing so
          I disagree with this. A guy with that sort of size advantage would catch Roy. To reiterate what I said before, Roy isn't as elusive as he is made out to be. Haye would land some leather, particularly since Haye is extremely fast and athletic for a heavyweight. Roy's chin was good enough to take some decent punches and is not as bad as some make it out to be but it isn't good enough to take Haye's punches that's for sure. Haye is a bigger version of Roy in many respects. Obviously he's not as good but he's similar stylistically. The thing many people, particularly those who haven't boxed themselves, don't understand is that it doesn't matter that much if a you don't get hit clean by a bigger guys punches. Over many rounds, he will wear you down anyway unless you're Nicolino Locche or prime Pernell Whitaker so that literally every punch misses. Roy was neither of these and would take some clean shots or at least shots on the gloves, elbows etc and then cleanly later in the fight. You've gotta remember that Haye's chin problems and stamina problems would not be issues against Roy as much as they would against other heavyweights. His chin would be no issue at all.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
            I disagree with this. A guy with that sort of size advantage would catch Roy. To reiterate what I said before, Roy isn't as elusive as he is made out to be. Haye would land some leather, particularly since Haye is extremely fast and athletic for a heavyweight. Roy's chin was good enough to take some decent punches and is not as bad as some make it out to be but it isn't good enough to take Haye's punches that's for sure. Haye is a bigger version of Roy in many respects. Obviously he's not as good but he's similar stylistically. The thing many people, particularly those who haven't boxed themselves, don't understand is that it doesn't matter that much if a you don't get hit clean by a bigger guys punches. Over many rounds, he will wear you down anyway unless you're Nicolino Locche or prime Pernell Whitaker so that literally every punch misses. Roy was neither of these and would take some clean shots or at least shots on the gloves, elbows etc and then cleanly later in the fight. You've gotta remember that Haye's chin problems and stamina problems would not be issues against Roy as much as they would against other heavyweights. His chin would be no issue at all.



            you must have not watched a prime Roy Jones then...there were middleweights that had problems catching him and you're telling me Haye would?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by stefl14 View Post
              I disagree with this. A guy with that sort of size advantage would catch Roy. To reiterate what I said before, Roy isn't as elusive as he is made out to be. Haye would land some leather, particularly since Haye is extremely fast and athletic for a heavyweight. Roy's chin was good enough to take some decent punches and is not as bad as some make it out to be but it isn't good enough to take Haye's punches that's for sure. Haye is a bigger version of Roy in many respects. Obviously he's not as good but he's similar stylistically. The thing many people, particularly those who haven't boxed themselves, don't understand is that it doesn't matter that much if a you don't get hit clean by a bigger guys punches. Over many rounds, he will wear you down anyway unless you're Nicolino Locche or prime Pernell Whitaker so that literally every punch misses. Roy was neither of these and would take some clean shots or at least shots on the gloves, elbows etc and then cleanly later in the fight. You've gotta remember that Haye's chin problems and stamina problems would not be issues against Roy as much as they would against other heavyweights. His chin would be no issue at all.
              Haye is very inactive, and Roy was a terrific mover. He wouldn't have to evade 50 punches a round. He'd have to watch out for half a dozen big punches a round. He could possibly do that much, and take the sting off the ones that did land.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SnakeVen0m View Post
                Joe Calzaghe.
                Didn't have a chance against prime jones! Old jones knocked his butt down. Prime jones destroys him

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by MARKBNLV View Post
                  he was the most skilled physically ive ever seen
                  Agree. Other than a prime Tyson, I can't think of a better physical specimen in the ring.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
                    you must have not watched a prime Roy Jones then...there were middleweights that had problems catching him and you're telling me Haye would?


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                    • #40
                      LOL @ the people saying Roy would beat most of the current HWs. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The nuthugging Roy gets is ridiculous.

                      Roy would get KTFO by just about ANY of the HWs.

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