Originally posted by bojangles1987
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Who would be P4P number 1 right now if Roy Jones was in his prime?
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Last edited by stefl14; 02-20-2014, 04:01 PM.
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Roy Jones can clean up the HW to an extent, but if he got clocked by Wilder (or any of the giants) he would be lights out.
Imagine the schooling guys like Seth Mitchell would receive.
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Originally posted by stefl14 View PostRoy is great and everything, and Haye is clearly nothing on him all time P4P, but 'maybe' Haye? I'm sorry, but Haye would destroy Roy at HW.
if he can catch him...if not, Roy wins enough rounds and beats Haye on points...and if Haye can't catch him, Roy looks good doing so
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Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Postif he can catch him...if not, Roy wins enough rounds and beats Haye on points...and if Haye can't catch him, Roy looks good doing so
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Originally posted by stefl14 View PostI disagree with this. A guy with that sort of size advantage would catch Roy. To reiterate what I said before, Roy isn't as elusive as he is made out to be. Haye would land some leather, particularly since Haye is extremely fast and athletic for a heavyweight. Roy's chin was good enough to take some decent punches and is not as bad as some make it out to be but it isn't good enough to take Haye's punches that's for sure. Haye is a bigger version of Roy in many respects. Obviously he's not as good but he's similar stylistically. The thing many people, particularly those who haven't boxed themselves, don't understand is that it doesn't matter that much if a you don't get hit clean by a bigger guys punches. Over many rounds, he will wear you down anyway unless you're Nicolino Locche or prime Pernell Whitaker so that literally every punch misses. Roy was neither of these and would take some clean shots or at least shots on the gloves, elbows etc and then cleanly later in the fight. You've gotta remember that Haye's chin problems and stamina problems would not be issues against Roy as much as they would against other heavyweights. His chin would be no issue at all.
you must have not watched a prime Roy Jones then...there were middleweights that had problems catching him and you're telling me Haye would?
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Originally posted by stefl14 View PostI disagree with this. A guy with that sort of size advantage would catch Roy. To reiterate what I said before, Roy isn't as elusive as he is made out to be. Haye would land some leather, particularly since Haye is extremely fast and athletic for a heavyweight. Roy's chin was good enough to take some decent punches and is not as bad as some make it out to be but it isn't good enough to take Haye's punches that's for sure. Haye is a bigger version of Roy in many respects. Obviously he's not as good but he's similar stylistically. The thing many people, particularly those who haven't boxed themselves, don't understand is that it doesn't matter that much if a you don't get hit clean by a bigger guys punches. Over many rounds, he will wear you down anyway unless you're Nicolino Locche or prime Pernell Whitaker so that literally every punch misses. Roy was neither of these and would take some clean shots or at least shots on the gloves, elbows etc and then cleanly later in the fight. You've gotta remember that Haye's chin problems and stamina problems would not be issues against Roy as much as they would against other heavyweights. His chin would be no issue at all.
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