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  • Shambrolic
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    #11
    Oscar robbed Pernell and a couple other fighters. Floyd also never fought anyone with a losing record, he always fought them critically acclaimed and coming off the biggest wins so he can steal their momentum. Kostya tzu, Hamed, Mosley, and Oscar including others ducked Floyd when he was at 135.

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    • jayblack
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      #12
      Originally posted by Kuyukut
      better than nothing, i suppose... one good win and proclaimed himself the best fighter.

      what a fucking fraud!
      Actually the world proclaims him as the best fighter. Is there any P4P list that you know of where Mayweather isn't #1?

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      • jayblack
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        #13
        Originally posted by Shambrolic
        Oscar robbed Pernell and a couple other fighters. Floyd also never fought anyone with a losing record, he always fought them critically acclaimed and coming off the biggest wins so he can steal their momentum. Kostya tzu, Hamed, Mosley, and Oscar including others ducked Floyd when he was at 135.
        I think he was referring to Emanuel Agustus

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        • A-Wolf
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          #14
          Originally posted by Andre Wardttke
          Genaro Hernandez, after 18 fights or something is a superb win, superb.
          In Genaro's LAST ever fight. Yes, superb win.

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          • Larry the boss
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            #15
            Originally posted by Fantastic One
            No he's not. If you want to talk about gifts, you should see the one they gave to Floyd in the first Castillo fight. Oscar also got some decisions not in his favor but that's boxing. Who exactly needed to fight each other to face him? I recall him facing most of the top guys in his division.



            Nope but even if he was, people from the black power society wouldn't give him the credit he deserves.
            yep when all else fails pull the race card

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            • 4Corners
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              #16
              Originally posted by A-Wolf
              At least he has one good win. That's something.
              Genaro Hernandez: RING #1 SFW, undefeated at 130

              Angel Manfredy: coming off win over prime Gatti, was #2 at 130

              Diego Corrales: #1 at 130, undefeated, #5 P4P

              Carlos Hernandez: Top 10 at 130, future champion

              Jesus Chavez: Top 5 at 130, future 2 weight champion

              Jose Luis Castillo: #1 130, best Lightweight of his era

              DeMarcus Corley: Top 5 at 140, arguably beat Judah in the fight prior

              Arturo Gatti: Top 5 at 140

              Zab Judah: Top 5 at 147

              Carlos Baldomir: RING CHAMP 147, coming off win over Judah

              Oscar De La Hoya: Top 5 at 154

              Ricky Hatton: #1 140, Top 10 P4P, undefeated

              Juan Manuel Marquez: Bullcrap fight at the time, would go on to KO Pac at same weight class

              Shane Mosley: #1-2 147, #3 P4P

              Victor Ortiz: #2 147

              Miguel Cotto: #1 at 154

              Robert Guerrero: Top 5 at 147

              Canelo Alvarez: RING CHAMP 154, undefeated, coming off win over Trout



              All of these are either decent, solid, or really good wins. That's the best resume currently aside from Pacquiao, and it's closer then ever given Manny hasn't actually gotten a legit win aside from Bradley since Cotto and Clottey.

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              • A-Wolf
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                #17
                Originally posted by 4Corners
                Genaro Hernandez: RING #1 SFW, undefeated at 130

                Angel Manfredy: coming off win over prime Gatti, was #2 at 130

                Diego Corrales: #1 at 130, undefeated, #5 P4P

                Carlos Hernandez: Top 10 at 130, future champion

                Jesus Chavez: Top 5 at 130, future 2 weight champion

                Jose Luis Castillo: #1 130, best Lightweight of his era

                DeMarcus Corley: Top 5 at 140, arguably beat Judah in the fight prior

                Arturo Gatti: Top 5 at 140

                Zab Judah: Top 5 at 147

                Carlos Baldomir: RING CHAMP 147, coming off win over Judah

                Oscar De La Hoya: Top 5 at 154

                Ricky Hatton: #1 140, Top 10 P4P, undefeated

                Juan Manuel Marquez: Bullcrap fight at the time, would go on to KO Pac at same weight class

                Shane Mosley: #1-2 147, #3 P4P

                Victor Ortiz: #2 147

                Miguel Cotto: #1 at 154

                Robert Guerrero: Top 5 at 147

                Canelo Alvarez: RING CHAMP 154, undefeated, coming off win over Trout



                All of these are either decent, solid, or really good wins. That's the best resume currently aside from Pacquiao, and it's closer then ever given Manny hasn't actually gotten a legit win aside from Bradley since Cotto and Clottey.
                Whatever you say, man.

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                • 4Corners
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                  #18
                  Oh and Oscar isn't greater then Mayweather. No way.

                  Oscar lost to Trinidad, though it was close. He arguably lost to Whitaker. Lost to Mosley, though he arguably won at least one fight, and lost to Hopkins. He also arguably lost to Sturm. He lost a lot of his big fights.

                  Now he's still got good wins over Ruelas, Genaro, Chavez, Gonzalez, Quartey, Carr, Gatti, Vargas, etc.

                  And given he probably deserved the Trinidad fight, and at least one Mosley fight, he's an ATG and lock HOF fighter. But he's not greater then Mayweather. And Mayweather easily has the longevity battle won. He's been one of the top P4P fighters since 1998. That's over 15 years. Oscar was only P4P for maybe half that time.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by A-Wolf
                    Whatever you say, man.
                    Good argument.

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                    • UTEP
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 4Corners
                      Genaro Hernandez: RING #1 SFW, undefeated at 130

                      Angel Manfredy: coming off win over prime Gatti, was #2 at 130

                      Diego Corrales: #1 at 130, undefeated, #5 P4P

                      Carlos Hernandez: Top 10 at 130, future champion

                      Jesus Chavez: Top 5 at 130, future 2 weight champion

                      Jose Luis Castillo: #1 130, best Lightweight of his era

                      DeMarcus Corley: Top 5 at 140, arguably beat Judah in the fight prior

                      Arturo Gatti: Top 5 at 140
                      Zab Judah: Top 5 at 147

                      Carlos Baldomir: RING CHAMP 147, coming off win over Judah

                      Oscar De La Hoya: Top 5 at 154

                      Ricky Hatton: #1 140, Top 10 P4P, undefeated

                      Juan Manuel Marquez: Bullcrap fight at the time, would go on to KO Pac at same weight class
                      Shane Mosley: #1-2 147, #3 P4P

                      Victor Ortiz: #2 147

                      Miguel Cotto: #1 at 154

                      Robert Guerrero: Top 5 at 147

                      Canelo Alvarez: RING CHAMP 154, undefeated, coming off win over Trout


                      All of these are either decent, solid, or really good wins. That's the best resume currently aside from Pacquiao, and it's closer then ever given Manny hasn't actually gotten a legit win aside from Bradley since Cotto and Clottey.

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