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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #101
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    2009.

    Those big four have taken their knocks in Floyd's absent or have move out of the division.

    A safe time for Floyd to comeback. But their is a new danger guy, Manny Pacquiao. He is small and Floyd thinks he can beat him, but does not risk it.

    On the eve of Pacquiao's fight with Hatton, Floyd announces his comeback against the lightweight champ of the world, JMM, but at welterweight, not lightweight.

    If Floyd waited a d, he could have been in negotiations to fight Pacquiao in November.

    Floyd did this, to ride of the Pacquiao name and duck Pacquiao as an opponent.

    Floyd also avoided Mosley claiming he was not a PPV attraction, strange as Mosley did almost 50% more than the Marquez fight. Floyd would only fight Mosley almost a year later at the age of 37 and being 17 months out of the ring.

    Floyd was weary about facing Pacquiao and would wait to see how he would do against a top welter in Cotto to decide weather to take the risk.
    Dude, you are killing these guys haha....great posts!!!

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      #102
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      On the eve of Pacquiao's fight with Hatton, Floyd announces his comeback against the lightweight champ of the world, JMM, but at welterweight, not lightweight.
      The same JMM that has given Pacquiao hell in four fights. And that knocked out Pacquiao at welterweight. And that Pacquiao to this day wants a rematch with.

      But Floyd isn't allowed to fight him without being accused of ducking and/or cherry picking.

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      • dynomyte1444
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        #103
        being the highest paid athlete and recognized as thee very best in the world and one of the greatest of all time. The man who single handedly brought the world of boxing to start using harsher test that even manny is using.

        Floyds legacy will be fine. The only people who run there mouth are *******s that are obsessed with manny.

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        • MayMosPeaHop
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          #104
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          2005

          Floyd fought, Henry Bruseles, Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, again none of them were top 3, who were Tyszu, Hatton and Cotto
          I think you are trying to stick to when FMJ was at 140lbs. The Mitchell fight was at 147lbs. Let's skip that for now.

          So these 3 fights(Bruseles, Gatti, and Mitchell) means FMJ ducked Tyszu, Hatton, and Cotto? It is never the other way around, right? Tyszu, Hatton, and Cotto wanted to fight Floyd, right? Show me the proof that Tyszu, Hatton, and Cotto wanted to fight FMJ at 140lbs. You are saying he ducked them. Where are the articles?

          Wasn't Cotto at the Bruseles fight? Didn't Cotto's uncle train Bruseles? Show me any proof of Cotto or Bob Arum wanting to match FMJ and Cotto after that fight.

          Didn't Hatton fight FMJ while he was still undefeated and had a 147 belt? I will let you answer. But wasn't Hatton at the Gatti fight commentating also? Show me any proof from Hatton or his team wanting to fight FMJ at 140lbs?

          Lastly - Why don't you ever ask - Why didn't Tyszu fight FMJ? You make it sound like FMJ was not considered a dangerous fight for him or Cotto or Hatton. The only history that matters is Tyszu fought Hatton, lost, and then retired.

          Show me the proof of ducking.

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          • Jsmooth9876
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            #105
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            The same JMM that has given Pacquiao hell in four fights. And that knocked out Pacquiao at welterweight. And that Pacquiao to this day wants a rematch with.

            But Floyd isn't allowed to fight him without being accused of ducking and/or cherry picking.
            Guess what....a win for Marquez doesn't equal a win for your hero over Manny and never will.

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              #106
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              2009.

              Those big four have taken their knocks in Floyd's absent or have move out of the division.

              A safe time for Floyd to comeback. But their is a new danger guy, Manny Pacquiao. He is small and Floyd thinks he can beat him, but does not risk it.

              On the eve of Pacquiao's fight with Hatton, Floyd announces his comeback against the lightweight champ of the world, JMM, but at welterweight, not lightweight.

              If Floyd waited a d, he could have been in negotiations to fight Pacquiao in November.

              Floyd did this, to ride of the Pacquiao name and duck Pacquiao as an opponent.

              Floyd also avoided Mosley claiming he was not a PPV attraction, strange as Mosley did almost 50% more than the Marquez fight. Floyd would only fight Mosley almost a year later at the age of 37 and being 17 months out of the ring.

              Floyd was weary about facing Pacquiao and would wait to see how he would do against a top welter in Cotto to decide weather to take the risk.

              You do realize that Mayweather inquired about fighting both Cotto and Mosley before eventually fighting them, right? Arum was protecting Cotto and something about Mosley having to get his tooth fixed. Remember that?

              You do realize that Mayweather signed a contract to fight Pacquiao with the purse being divided 50/50 right? But it didn't happen. Something about Pacquiao being afraid of needles. Remember that?

              How can some of you honestly say Mayweather's legacy will be tarnished and not acknowledge that Pacquiao's legacy should be more tarnished simply because he refused to fight Mayweather because he didn't want to take a drug test.

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              • D4thincarnation
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                #107
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                The same JMM that has given Pacquiao hell in four fights. And that knocked out Pacquiao at welterweight. And that Pacquiao to this day wants a rematch with.

                But Floyd isn't allowed to fight him without being accused of ducking and/or cherry picking.

                Triangle theories don't work fool.

                Maybe Floyd wants to fight Torrecampo next

                Fact is in 2009 Floyd fought a lightweight who only had a couple of fight at that weight, and Floyd dragged him up to welter to fight him, when fighters such as Cotto and Mosley were available and the fight everybody was calling for Pacquiao.

                Floyd ducked the best for the 5 year in the row and this trend continue for the next 5 year.

                10 years of ducking.

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                • MayMosPeaHop
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  2007 2008.
                  The welter division hits a peak, Margarito, Mosley, Cotto and Williams all at the top of their game.

                  Floyd drags Hatton up, a guy that relies on his size advantage at the lower weights to maul his opponents and then fights Oscar, who had 1 fight in 3 years, a win over the ever hittable Mayorga.

                  Any of those welterweight opponents were the tougher fights and even at light-middle, Forrest, Spinks would have been tougher tasks than Oscar.

                  Then Floyd takes two years out (ducking) the tough fights and those 4 fighters all take turns knocking chunks out of each other.

                  Smart ducking move by Floyd.

                  And once again, he fails to fight the best.
                  Your posts mimic the intelligence of a child. Spinks would have been tougher fight at 154lbs than Oscar? What the hell is going on in your mind?

                  Floyd dragged Hatton up. The same Hatton that never pursued FMJ at 140lbs when he was there and happened to be a champion at 147lbs.

                  FMJ beat the WW champion Mosley. Last I looked, there is video proof of Mosley ducking FMJ for years. Larry, my tooth is loose.

                  You know, it is amazing the number of fights Bob Arum has made with FMJ since he left Top Rank. How many has it been. I cannot count. It is also amazing that the Cotto fight was put together so quickly after Miguel left Top Rank.

                  Show me proof of ducking.

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                  • MayMosPeaHop
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Triangle theories don't work fool.

                    Maybe Floyd wants to fight Torrecampo next

                    Fact is in 2009 Floyd fought a lightweight who only had a couple of fight at that weight, and Floyd dragged him up to welter to fight him, when fighters such as Cotto and Mosley were available and the fight everybody was calling for Pacquiao.

                    Floyd ducked the best for the 5 year in the row and this trend continue for the next 5 year.

                    10 years of ducking.
                    Prove it - where is the proof that FMJ dragged up JMM to WW? FMJ has a lot of power. I did not know he had that much power. Do you have the video or article proving this great power of FMJ over JMM and his team. Can't wait to see it.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #110
                      FFloyds legacy is tarnished and irrepperably damaged forever. When Floyd became a household name in boxing and became a somebody he went AWOL.

                      Hernandez was prepared to allow Floyd to make a name for himself by beating him but Floyd doesn't repay the generosity. Floyd goes AWOL for years and years. Just imagine how many fights Floyd could have had in those years and how improved his resume could be!

                      Floyd went AWOL because he knows when you become a somebody everyone is out to take your throne and it gets harder. When Floyd was a no name he could fight nobodies because nothing was expected of him.

                      Instead Floyd left it to Pac, and everyone was out to dethrone the FOTD Pac. Pac was the man to beat and Pac cherished the challenge and pressure.

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