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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    What does Pacquiao have to lose? He has a lot to clean up professional/money wise. shouldn't only be about Floyd. Manny should try a diffent avenue to drive on.
    Manny does have something to lose. He's not quite ready to cash out. And the majority of his fanbase are much bigger Floyd haters than Pac fans. Which is evident in how his PPV numbers have stedily declined since the third JMM fight. The lower the belief is that he can actually beat Floyd. The lesser his drawing power will be. He's built it back up to where he has them beliving again. And I think his numbers against Bradley will reflect that. But he knows, and Arum knows. Once he loses to Floyd, the freaks which fanatically gravitate to him now because "he's the guy to beat Floyd" or "he's the guy Floyd is scared of" will be gone forever.

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    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
      Actually, they're not. Because that's who Floyd wants to promote his fights. And since he's a A-side, its his call to make. You see, that's how boxing works. He who has the gold makes the rules. Back when he and Pac were equals, Floyd had no issues wth dealing with Pac on equal terms. Which is why he conceeded the ring size, gloves, a 50/50 split, cutff period for testing, and doing a joint promotion with Arum. Those days are over. Its not Floyd's fault that Pac started going out getting his ass kicked and losing status in the sport. Its not Floyd's fault Pac's drawing power has significantly declined. Pac is the opponent here. He's in no position to call shots on anything. That's something he he, his representation, and especially his fans have yet to accept.
      Very true & similiar to the issues Cotto & Martinez are having.. but at the end of the day Cotto is the A Side of that fight.. Martinez has conceded....

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      • Originally posted by carloscruz10009 View Post
        Very true & similiar to the issues Cotto & Martinez are having.. but at the end of the day Cotto is the A Side of that fight.. Martinez has conceded....
        Since Whirlout's boxing IQ is so much higher than mine. I conceeded to him. I told him he could pick the fights that we pick against each other. Still, he don't want none. What do I have to do to get this man to back up all his talk? I just wanna compete. He says he's miles ahead of me in boxing IQ because he picked one fight correctly. So if we pick fights against each other the rest of the year, he should blow me outta the water right? What's he scared of homie???

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        • Originally posted by hitking View Post
          Actually, they're not. Because that's who Floyd wants to promote his fights. And since he's a A-side, its his call to make. You see, that's how boxing works. He who has the gold makes the rules. Back when he and Pac were equals, Floyd had no issues wth dealing with Pac on equal terms. Which is why he conceeded the ring size, gloves, a 50/50 split, cutff period for testing, and doing a joint promotion with Arum. Those days are over. Its not Floyd's fault that Pac started going out getting his ass kicked and losing status in the sport. Its not Floyd's fault Pac's drawing power has significantly declined. Pac is the opponent here. He's in no position to call shots on anything. That's something he he, his representation, and especially his fans have yet to accept.
          Actually yeah they are. Floyd can promote his own fight. Manny can't he's under contract. So therefore Gloldenboy is the unnecessary party weather gayweather wants them to promote his fights or not.

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          • Originally posted by ~BoZz~ View Post
            poocquiao is too dumb to do anything without arum...he needs bob that's why his money goes into arums pocket..the congressman is a street kid with no education..he's good at getting knocked out and cheating on his wife lol
            Better the beating her though huh? Somebody tell Floyd beating up a b1tch don't make you **** but some *****z think it makes them men

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            • Originally posted by Davis40 View Post
              Actually yeah they are. Floyd can promote his own fight. Manny can't he's under contract. So therefore Gloldenboy is the unnecessary party weather gayweather wants them to promote his fights or not.
              Arum isn't necessary either. Shaefer offered him a step aside fee. Arum himself said Showtime didn't wanna work with him. Floyd has an exclusive contract with Showtime. So for the fight to happen in 2014 or 2015, its gonna have to take place on Showtime. What's wrong with Arum taking a step aside fee?

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              • Lol. Manny may be dumb but he's no damn fool. He's still piggybacking off floyds name. He wants his fans to forget he got outboxed and ktfo by marquez, a lightweight. And he wants them to forget of his mediocre showing vs bradley(he did win to me). So what does he do? Takes on a a 140 pounder coming off a loss so he can build back up his idiot fanss who thinks he's the guy to beat floyd. And continue to pretend he wants the fight so his fans can tune in and give them more reason to believe he can beat floyd. So if he beats bradley all of a sudden he'd be the guy. Yet I'm sure mayweather would easily outbox bradley and get no credit for it.

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                • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                  Manny does have something to lose. He's not quite ready to cash out. And the majority of his fanbase are much bigger Floyd haters than Pac fans. Which is evident in how his PPV numbers have stedily declined since the third JMM fight. The lower the belief is that he can actually beat Floyd. The lesser his drawing power will be. He's built it back up to where he has them beliving again. And I think his numbers against Bradley will reflect that. But he knows, and Arum knows. Once he loses to Floyd, the freaks which fanatically gravitate to him now because "he's the guy to beat Floyd" or "he's the guy Floyd is scared of" will be gone forever.
                  I just don't get how Manny let his team put him in the poor house. Not saying Arum, Koncz and whoever else is to blame for his down fall but it is already out there that the closet people to him did him dirty. Smarting thing for him to do would to be severing ties with Arum/Top Rank. I'm sure with the right people on his side he can fix his debts. Manny had about 3 solid years on top while Floyd has had damn near 20 years at the top. This is just a case of Arum milking Pacquiao like he tried to do with De La Hoya and Mayweather. Pacquiao fans are getting mad at Floyd Sr for telling him to leave Arum to fight Floyd? Once sense does that make? He's trying to tell him what to do to make the fight.

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                  • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                    Since Whirlout's boxing IQ is so much higher than mine. I conceeded to him. I told him he could pick the fights that we pick against each other. Still, he don't want none. What do I have to do to get this man to back up all his talk? I just wanna compete. He says he's miles ahead of me in boxing IQ because he picked one fight correctly. So if we pick fights against each other the rest of the year, he should blow me outta the water right? What's he scared of homie???
                    I hate people who think they're smart because they picked a fight right. For gods sake you could know nothing about boxing at all and you still have a 50-50 chance. How can anyone think that makes them knowledgeable? Probably why there are so many idiot boxing fans thinking they have a gift.

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                    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                      Arum isn't necessary either. Shaefer offered him a step aside fee. Arum himself said Showtime didn't wanna work with him. Floyd has an exclusive contract with Showtime. So for the fight to happen in 2014 or 2015, its gonna have to take place on Showtime. What's wrong with Arum taking a step aside fee?
                      Nothing but even him taking a step aside fee is still him being involved in the fight. He'd be profiting from it. Why can't you just admit that you're wrong? Goldenboy is the only unnecessary party. It's a fact.

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