Comments Thread For: David Haye, if Shoulder Recovers, Open To Fighting Again

[JJRod]

Despite what many people say about Haye, that he's a quitter a talker and all that, I have to admit that to me the HW division is a lot better with him in it than with him out of it.

If you take out the brothers at the top Haye vs Fury, Arreola, Adamek, Wilder, Stiverne, and even Chisora II would be interesting fights.

[LacedUp]

Yeah, and you also said that 'Haye is better than Wladimir, pound for pound'. One of your more memorable statements.

Fantasy match-ups is another thing. I do believe the Klitschko's are at the very top, H2H. And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

I stand by that 1000%. But as I explained in the same thread, I wasn't talking about a mythical ranking of the best/most dominant fighters - but if both were relative in size/weight.

Well you have frequently said that Wladimir is the greatest of all times, as has your fanboy friends. He's only lost when drugged/gassed/out of prime which apparently doesn't count as losses.

If you really want to talk about 'another thing' then how come Haye is such a fraud and a noone in these threads, but when it comes to Wlad's best wins, he's a 2 weight world champion and #1 ranked contender in the division?

It can't be both.

[BoomBoomBuckner]

**** off Haye

[skinnystev]

the whole shoulder injury thing is a hoax just like the cut eye

[Ravens Fan]

At least it's not as bad as saying you were drugged

That was rather bizarre but Wlad did crush Brewster in the rematch while Haye is still making excuses. So whats worse, being a dominate champion with 20 defenses or being a fighter who was the CW champ for a total of 2 rounds over 4 months and then held a paper HW title for 1-1/2 years? And not be forgotten Haye consistently made excuses why he didn't look good in fights with washed up and inferior fighters while holding that paper title. However, don't get me wrong because even though I believe Haye's boxing ability is overrated, I also believe he has the speed and power to be a great fighter. He just doesn't, for what ever reason, have the heart or I guess the desire to do so. And he certainly has nothing to fear when it comes to Tyson Fury and I believe he would beat him easily if they ever fought.

[LacedUp]

That was rather bizarre but Wlad did crush Brewster in the rematch while Haye is still making excuses. So whats worse, being a dominate champion with 20 defenses or being a fighter who was the CW champ for a total of 2 rounds over 4 months and then held a paper HW title for 1-1/2 years? And not be forgotten Haye consistently made excuses why he didn't look good in fights with washed up and inferior fighters while holding that paper title. However, don't get me wrong because even though I believe Haye's boxing ability is overrated, I also believe he has the speed and power to be a great fighter. He just doesn't, for what ever reason, have the heart or I guess the desire to do so. And he certainly has nothing to fear when it comes to Tyson Fury and I believe he would beat him easily if they ever fought.

That's just not true. He said in the post-fight interview that he couldn't get near him and mentioned his toe as being a reason for it. Be it true or not, not a smart move. However, he said on the BBC the day after that Wlad was just too big and too good - broken toe or not. So I don't understand where you're coming from at all.

There's no question that Wlad has had a better career than Haye at all. Of course he has. But I just think it's funny that Klitschko fans will go out of their way to excuse every single loss on the klitschko resume but hang their necks on Haye's toe excuse.

I frequently hear: "He was ahead on points", "he was injured", "he was drugged", "not in his prime yet", "gassed", "his mind was somewhere else" and bla bla bla.

But Haye's excuse is the end of the world and he's a fraud. Oh wait, except when it's time to talk about Wlad's resume - then he was a serious heavyweight and the best in the division other than Wlad and Vitali. I mean, the double standards are not even funny.

[sugarsmosley]

[badnewsbrown]

He had a lot of momentum after the Chisora win, he should've capitalized.

[Weltschmerz]

I stand by that 1000%. But as I explained in the same thread, I wasn't talking about a mythical ranking of the best/most dominant fighters - but if both were relative in size/weight.

Well you have frequently said that Wladimir is the greatest of all times, as has your fanboy friends. He's only lost when drugged/gassed/out of prime which apparently doesn't count as losses.

If you really want to talk about 'another thing' then how come Haye is such a fraud and a noone in these threads, but when it comes to Wlad's best wins, he's a 2 weight world champion and #1 ranked contender in the division?

It can't be both.

You still haven't accepted that Haye is a fraud. You seem out of reach. You're really delusional, as BostonGuy pointed out.

[LacedUp]

You still haven't accepted that Haye is a fraud. You seem out of reach. You're really delusional, as BostonGuy pointed out.

When I have a discussion with someone who knows what the *** he's talking about, I'll make that call.

Until then...