Should the Ref count be longer?

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  • Russian Crushin
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    #11
    They should always count to 8 (at least) and also have the same count speed. Some count fast and some count slow, it makes no sense

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    • Ratchet
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      #12
      I think it's fine at 10. Fighters need to learn to compose themselves better instead of immediately jumping up and trying to act like a knockdown never occurred. Just take the full eight count. No matter how fast you get it up, the ref is still going to count to eight.

      Also, referees need to to be more consistent with their counting. I randomly watched Marco Antonio Rubio vs. Kofi Jantuah today and Jay Nady was counting fast as hell. Rubio wasn't gonna get up in time anyway but Nady rushed it.

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      • TRTboy
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        #13
        hell no. There would be a lot more deaths.

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        • DannYankee
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          #14
          Originally posted by TRTboy
          hell no. There would be a lot more deaths.
          Please elaborate on how a more composed fighter who's had a bit more time to regain his senses would be in more danger than one that rushed to get up, and made the count barely, and goes back in there still not knowing where the fk he is. I would argue the opposite.

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          • clmags12
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            #15
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            They should always count to 8 (at least) and also have the same count speed. Some count fast and some count slow, it makes no sense
            You are correct in every ref is probably different in some way. IMO its probably the ref assessing the downed fighter of course, but him counting at the same time could lose count easy I guess. Haha.

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              The count is supposed to be 10 seconds and there is a time keeper to help the referee. If a referee is counting to ten faster than ten seconds then he is not doing his job and needs to go back to referee school until he gets it right. I voted no. The fighters have had 10 seconds to get up for over 100 years and I see no good reason to change it. If a fighter had a long time to get up that would mean fights would continue after a man was badly hurt. If a fighter is hurt so badly he can't stand up in ten seconds it's time to end the fight.

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              • J-champ
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                #17
                I don't think a count longer than ten is necessary but I like it when the ref makes the fighter walk a step to make sure he is alright after the count. I hate when the ref stops the fight without a count or a chance for the fighter to prove that he is alright.

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                • ShoulderRoll
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                  #18
                  It's fine how it is. Just needs to be applied in a consistent manner.

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                  • DannYankee
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    It's fine how it is. Just needs to be applied in a consistent manner.
                    Which it is not always the case and leaves room for error if I was a pro boxer my instinct would be to rush up too considering how little time you have to prove you can still get on your feet which for a lot of guys means looking like a headless chicken.

                    Another way to give fighters who get their bell rungs more of a chance could be making the standing count LONGER or a separate count from the 10 count. Meaning if you're on your feet in less than 10 seconds you get a few extra seconds to wake up from the quickie naptime. That wouldn't address all the problems I see, but it would be another alternative if making the count longer sounds too radical.

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