I somehow agree with this...except no. 8!

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McDonnell’s Inaugural Pound For Pound List – The Top 10
By James McDonnell (February 14, 2006)

Longevity
I will always rate fighters with long proven track records way ahead of one hit wonders who often leapfrog their way up the ratings off of the back of one win over another in the P4P list. The longer a fighter can perform at elite level with general success, the more highly I will rate them. Losing the odd fight here or there to fellow elite fighters doesn’t automatically disqualify you.

Skills
Part of the whole point of a P4P list is to suggest who, if weight were not an issue, would beat who. Thus, fighters with great all around skills or who are particularly excellent in defence or offensive areas are going to be credited more highly, provided they meet the other criteria on this list.

Quality of opposition
This includes not just wins, but losses too. Fighters who lose to good opposition are not going to be heavily penalised for a single loss. In closely matched fights, there is no shame in losing to the better man on the night. The converse of this is, fighters with padded records who feast on sub-par ‘opponent’ material won’t get rated as highly.

Big performances
It’s not just about winning, it’s about how you win. A crushing victory of the kind we saw from Pacman over Morales, especially when up against A class opposition, is going to earn big respect from me.

1. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.
I have serious reservations about putting Mayweather here, and do so largely based on his skills. Mayweather has a blend of offence, defence, footwork, handspeed and punch placement I’ve not seen since Sugar Ray Leonard was in his pomp. He’s got the blend of skills, natural athleticism, and most importantly dedication to his craft that comes along only a few times every century. If he can match his level of competition to go with it, he’s not just going to make the hall of fame, he’ll be a candidate for the all-time top 10. Time is running out as he is in his prime right now, but consider that he has already beaten two of the men in this top 10 list, as well as Jesus Chavez, and could go on to add the likes of Hatton, Cotto and it’s still possible.

However, right now, unless he beats a genuine world class opponent this year, ideally Hatton or Cotto, he is going to slip. Beating Baldomir will not really cut it for me, nor will beating Judah. Before anyone says I am rating Pacman highly based on beating Morales, please read below first.

2. MANNY PACQUIAO
This may seem excessive off the back of a win over Morales, but it was the manner of the victory which catapults him here, that and the fact that it’s easy to forget that Pacman is a three division world champion.

Manny has now decked the triumvirate of Barrera, Morales and Marquez a total of 6 times in four fights. I don’t know of another fighter below light welterweight I can think of who would have emulated that feat.

Pacman has already won belts at flyweight and super bantamweight (how he ever made flyweight?), and was to all intents and purposes a champion after beating Barrera at featherweight. It’s a toss up between Pacman and Barrera for top man at super featherweight, but having crushed Barrera once already, the onus is on Barrera to prove his case. A win over Barrera again catapults Pacman to the top, unless Mayweather does something very special this year.

3. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA
I’m a big believer that fighters with long illustrious careers behind them deserve to be placed ahead of one hit wonders who’ve just scored big - the P4P entries of people like Forrest and Mayorga in recent years is a case in point that just because you won big against someone who was considered P4P recently, doesn’t mean you inherit the earth.

Marco’s long and illustrious career is only marred by defeats to three men. Junior Jones early on, Morales (in a razor thin decision) and Pacquiao. If he loses to Pacman, there’s an argument for dropping him off this list altogether, depending on the manner of defeat. A win over Pacman will see them swap places, as Barrera has already recorded two wins over Morales.

Despite winning a belt in a 4th weight class, a win over Jesus Chavez will not place Barrera any higher for me, as Chavez already lost to Morales and to Mayweather at super featherweight and really hasn’t proven himself to be an elite level lightweight.

If Barrera wants to hike any further up this list, the other two men above must have a dip in form, or Marco needs to do something as spectacular as reversing his loss to Pacman. A win over Pacman would arguably make Barrera my #1 given Mayweather’s lack of significant fights recently.

4. JAMES TONEY
Toney is here due to a long career with title success at middleweight, super middleweight, cruiserweight, and heavyweight. Of course his heavyweight title was stripped following the positive drug test, and until he records a legit win over Hasim Rahman he isn’t a titleholder.

He deserves the place here based on his win over Vassiliy Jirov, and heavyweight performances to date and the fact that he has superlative skills. If he wins then defends his title, he becomes a legitimate challenger for the top spot, based on his longevity, his skills, and success in three widely ranging weight categories.

Toney is probably the best all around fighter in boxing today, possessing defensive skills which you won’t see this side of a tape of old timers like Moore, Charles, Walcott et al. Tom Gerbasi said he’s a national treasure; in boxing terms, he’s a wonder of the world.

5. WINKY WRIGHT
Winky gets here for being at top level for so long. Longevity is a big factor for me in picking a P4P fighter, and consistency is everything, just ask Zab Judah. Winky perhaps deserves to be higher than this on overall skills, but he hasn’t beaten fantastic competition and ruled the 154 class, which is a weak division.

Wright’s win over solid Sam Soliman is his most impressive win of late. Two back to back wins over Shane Mosley didn’t impress me much, as Shane is not a natural 154-lber, and had already been dominated by Vernon Forrest at welterweight prior to those fights. Neither these wins nor his victory over a Tito Trinidad who should have stayed retired on the evidence of his terrible showing against Winky did anything for me. However, Winky recorded these wins with impressive control, and all he needs is a big name opponent to ascend the rankings. Two impressive defences of the title he seems likely to end up with soon may move him up a notch, but realistically, he needs a win over a marquee name.

6. RICKY HATTON
I am maybe being a little charitable placing Hatton here, but he remains, for now at least the main man at 140.

Hatton needs to beat someone with pedigree to advance on his spot here. He climbs here for defending his title after beating Tszyu. Although Hatton has some ok names on his resume apart from Tszyu, they were faded versions of Ben Tackie, Vince Phillips etc that he beat. If Hatton beats another elite light welterweight, he moves up, if he beats Mayweather (a fight I don’t see happening this year) he moves to the top spot of course.

He is next rumoured to be now facing off against Carlos Baldomir, which will make him lineal champion in two weights, but I am not sure whether that deserves moving him up any further or not, as had Judah beaten Baldomir I would not have credited him.

7. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
Marquez may well be the best fighter between bantamweight and lightweight, but he needs a fight to prove it. His fight with Pacman went some way, when after being decked heavily for the third time in the very first round, he schooled Pacquiao for most of the following 11 rounds of their fight, and despite the three knockdowns should have been given the win.

Marquez has never been able to get a fight with Barrera or Morales much to his annoyance, and though his trainer Ignacio Beristain is one of the very best in the business, you would have to say he’s a lousy manager based on his turning down the rematch with Pacquiao over money issues. His performance against a destroyer like Pacman alone gives him the right to be here.

Marquez’ star is fading though, and time is running out. He isn’t at the time of writing even a belt holder, though if all goes to plan he will soon have back his IBF belt.

Again, he has a long unbeaten run, but will slip down this list unless he beats a fellow A-lister soon. Pacman said he will take the fight if Marquez moves up to super featherweight, Beristain would do well to try and make it so.

8. JOSE LUIS CASTILLO
Castillo went into the second fight with Diego Corrales with a distinct advantage in not making weight. Until their rubber match, Corrales deserves to be placed above him as they were not fighting on a level field, but I have to take into account their respective performances against Mayweather. Where Corrales was blasted into submission, Castillo made enough of a fight of it for some to suggest that he won their first fight, and was far from disgraced in their second. Their third fight will finally settle their placing in my P4P list, provided it happens.

The guy’s level of opposition remains incredible though.

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