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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: CompuBox's Latest Plus/Minus Leaders - Top Ten

    Gennady "GGG" Golovkin checks in at #2 overall at +17. Guillermo Rigondeaux remains #1 defensively. Erislandy Lara remains +16 after limiting Austin Trout to 20% connect pct.

    Plus/minus rating is determined by subtracting opponent’s connect percentage from listed fighter’s overall connect percentage, which includes jab connect percentage and power punch connect percentage.
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    #2
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
    Gennady "GGG" Golovkin checks in at #2 overall at +17. Guillermo Rigondeaux remains #1 defensively. Erislandy Lara remains +16 after limiting Austin Trout to 20% connect pct.

    Plus/minus rating is determined by subtracting opponent***8217;s connect percentage from listed fighter***8217;s overall connect percentage, which includes jab connect percentage and power punch connect percentage.
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    Only curiosity I can spot here is when you compare number of punches landed for and against - the two guys with the highest ratios at connect percentage (FMJ and GGG) are nearly the same two guys with the worst connect ratios in terms of actual punches landed.

    Floyd is worst, landing 2.41 for every 1 his opponent lands, Golovkin 3rd worst landing at 2.61 for punch he takes. FWIW Rigo is a good stride in front of everyone else, getting hit just once for every 4.09 punches he lands.

    Obviously level of competition needs to be allowed for, but it's no surprise that a number of the recognised names in the sport feature in the lists (which only account for championship level fighters anyway).
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 02-04-2014, 03:40 PM.

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    • MDPopescu
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      #3
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
      Gennady "GGG" Golovkin checks in at #2 overall at +17. Guillermo Rigondeaux remains #1 defensively. Erislandy Lara remains +16 after limiting Austin Trout to 20% connect pct.

      Plus/minus rating is determined by subtracting opponent’s connect percentage from listed fighter’s overall connect percentage, which includes jab connect percentage and power punch connect percentage.
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      As for the "CompuBox's Latest Plus/Minus Leaders" you are publishing above you should have mentioned my own "contribution" -- as just after the Adama fight I've posted (see post #144 here: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...4#post14194574 )
      the latest CompuBox rankings to which I have personally added Golovkin's numbers (without the Adama stats, because they were not released at that moment)...

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      • MDPopescu
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        #4
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        Gennady "GGG" Golovkin checks in at #2 overall at +17. Guillermo Rigondeaux remains #1 defensively. Erislandy Lara remains +16 after limiting Austin Trout to 20% connect pct.

        Plus/minus rating is determined by subtracting opponent’s connect percentage from listed fighter’s overall connect percentage, which includes jab connect percentage and power punch connect percentage.
        [Click Here To Read More]
        You may also check my album here:



        CompuBox Plus Minus Rankings
        Picture Added 02-02-2014 04:03 AM
        Added by MDPopescu

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        • Jloro
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          #5
          Should also factor in who they are doing this against lmao

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          • Citizen Koba
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            #6
            Originally posted by MDPopescu
            You may also check my album here:



            CompuBox Plus Minus Rankings
            Picture Added 02-02-2014 04:03 AM
            Added by MDPopescu

            Thanks MDP btw, I know the stats part is only a very small part of the sport, but I consider it a useful reference anyway - like Boxrec, the limitations of Compubox need to be understood, but it's still a useful tool when analysing fights and fighters.

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            • jas
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              #7
              i wasnt overly impressed with santa cruz in his last fight so im surprised he is that high.

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #8
                Originally posted by Jloro
                Should also factor in who they are doing this against lmao
                Yeah, obviously opponent level needs to be considered, any kinda stat analysis has its limitations and shouldn't be considered any more than a useful tool.

                FWIW the number in brackets on the original list (after the fighters name) presumably indicates the number of fights over which the stats have been taken - larger numbers would tend to indicate a larger sample size (thus more representative stats) - nonetheless in boxing the 'intangibles' are such a large part of the sport that these numbers can never be more than guidelines.
                Last edited by Citizen Koba; 02-04-2014, 07:05 PM.

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                • hhs661
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                  #9
                  Ahhh..I remember when Canelo was once at number 2.. Then he fought some good competition. Slid a bit, he did

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                  • BUNGALOWS
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                    #10
                    Manny is top 10 even with his style?

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