Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Trainer: Ward Must Realize, Gennady is a Star

[Grimgash]

They don't seem good because they're not able to get those huge fights...when again a change of promoter seems like a temp problem.
K2 has gotten over 100 countries to show his last fight, an HBO/U.S Debut and a HBO deal.
They're doing a great job right now IMO

Except they haven't gotten him a fight with anyone worth mentioning. Maybe it's his fault, maybe the promoters....either way it's not happened.

[Hougigo]

Golovkin may be a star but Carl Froch is an International Superstar

What kind of star is Golovkin?

[Hougigo]

Except they haven't gotten him a fight with anyone worth mentioning. Maybe it's his fault, maybe the promoters....either way it's not happened.

Golovkin couldn't get a promoter to bring him stateside and teamed up with K2 who brought them stateside and got him a deal with HBO

What could GBP do other than give him Quillin? After that he's stuck with showtime and their limited crop.

Top Rank has no MW's to offer and apparently Arum is open to having Chavez fight Golovkin.

K2 has beef with neither and could deal with either. How is it K2's fault for not getting anybody in there with him?

[Grimgash]

Golovkin couldn't get a promoter to bring him stateside and teamed up with K2 who brought them stateside and got him a deal with HBO

What could GBP do other than give him Quillin? After that he's stuck with showtime and their limited crop.

Top Rank has no MW's to offer and apparently Arum is open to having Chavez fight Golovkin.

K2 has beef with neither and could deal with either. How is it K2's fault for not getting anybody in there with him?

He does have options though. As for middleweight it's a bad bad division. He should've cleared it out as quick as he could and move on. Plenty and I mean plenty of guys with names at 168 will fight him. I made the comment yesterday and I'll ask you it. Do you see anyone at middleweights top 5, being a top 5 super middleweight fighter?

Edit: I agree K2 is probably the best choice, but overall they haven't gotten him much, not saying anyone else could've done better. I agree with that, just that something has to happen.

[MDPopescu]

He does have options though. As for middleweight it's a bad bad division. He should've cleared it out as quick as he could and move on. Plenty and I mean plenty of guys with names at 168 will fight him. I made the comment yesterday and I'll ask you it. Do you see anyone at middleweights top 5, being a top 5 super middleweight fighter?

Edit: I agree K2 is probably the best choice, but overall they haven't gotten him much, not saying anyone else could've done better. I agree with that, just that something has to happen.

Super Middleweight didn't exist.
There were Middleweight and Light Heavyweight.
Top 5 Super Middleweights are Light Heavyweights.

[Hougigo]

He does have options though. As for middleweight it's a bad bad division. He should've cleared it out as quick as he could and move on. Plenty and I mean plenty of guys with names at 168 will fight him. I made the comment yesterday and I'll ask you it. Do you see anyone at middleweights top 5, being a top 5 super middleweight fighter?

Dude starts camp at 167, if he doesn't want to move up straight away then fine.
How is he supposed to clear it out as quick as he can, dude wasn't on most people's radar until mid 2012. We thought 2013 was the year:

Quillin no
Sergio gone for a year
Geale/Barker were both looking to Sturm after

Also depends on who you have in your top 5 ratings for 168
Looking at the ring, I'd take him in 3 of them for sure

[MDPopescu]

Dude starts camp at 167, if he doesn't want to move up straight away then fine.
How is he supposed to clear it out as quick as he can, dude wasn't on most people's radar until mid 2012. We thought 2013 was the year:

Quillin no
Sergio gone for a year
Geale/Barker were both looking to Sturm after

Also depends on who you have in your top 5 ratings for 168
Looking at the ring, I'd take him in 3 of them for sure

Here we go again...

You can't tell this to the spoiled princess -- she wants the dude because she wants him...

[Hougigo]

Here we go again...

You can't tell this to the spoiled princess -- she wants the dude because she wants him...

what does that even mean

[Grimgash]

Super Middleweight didn't exist.
There were Middleweight and Light Heavyweight.
Top 5 Super Middleweights are Light Heavyweights.

Not ATG list. I know the history of the divisions. I mean current rankings.

[Grimgash]

what does that even mean

1. Andre Ward
2. Carl Froch
3. George Groves
4. Robert Stieglitz
5. Mikkel Kessler
6. Arthur Abraham
7. Sakio Bika
8. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
9. Anthony Dirrell
10. Edwin Rodriguez

Granted it's Fight new list and while I don't fully agree.... I will say it's better than the other ones.