Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” - The Guillermo Rigondeaux Blame Game

[hitking]

Rigondeaux is the victim of an ignorant group of green "fight fans" that only recently started followign the spoort when the whole Floyd-Manny soap opera started

[BarnBurnerBrawl]

Rigo is exciting to purist . I'm excited to see him whoop donaire again : )

[DoktorSleepless]

I randomly picked round 4 of Rigo-Agbeko without looking at the compubox stats and rewatched it. Almost every jab he threw was a slow pitty pat range finder. Being super generous, I counted around 10 real jabs that he threw with some intent. (even then some of those were borderline range finders) I checked the compubox stats and they ridiculously gave him credit for throwing 57 jabs. You'd think he was Leo Santa Cruz with those numbers.

Reason #100 why compubox should be disbanded. Can't even trust punches thrown, let alone landed.

[JJRod]

Rigo's problem is the fan base. He is not American, not Mexican and he don't know English. If Cubans were able to see HBO in Cuba, like nmexicans o Philippines do, then Rigo is a master because generate money like Mayweather does between americans even when he is counterpuncher. The problem is that Cubans by themselves in Miami are not enough for Arum. Why he would allow Rigo to destroy a Mexican of a Phillipine who buy PPV?. This is his only sin, to be the best without enought fan base because in cuba HBO is forbidded. Why Arum is creating Zou Zimming who is an extremely bad boxer?.
Don't try to find a logical excuse because there's no logical reason. Of course, many others don't want to see him destroying their national "champion" and follow the Arum's choise of ask everybody to sabotage the Cubans. Basically this is what Arum is saying, that everybody who wants his national champions should sabotage Rigo. That's why he didn't release Rigo neither, because as his promoter has the forum to create this sabotage.

I don't think it has anything to do with him not being American, Mexican or Filipino. I honestly don't. I believe it has to do with his style and character more than anything.
His style is what turns people off. There have been plenty of fighters who spoke little to no English and managed sizeable audiences. Maidana would be an example of that, so would Matthysse, and Mayorga, , all of whom are neither Mexican, Puerto Rican or Filipino, but manage to receive a lot of support.

I gave this example many times, but it bares repeating. If your style is boring, unless you offer something else in the form of entertainment (as Mayweather does) you're not going to sell. Even one of the biggest boxing audiences, Mexicans will not watch you if you're boring, as is the case with light weight champion Miguel Vasquez. No one wants to see him figh, which is why he isn't an option for the big names like Broner, Gamboa, Garcia, etc.

[ElMeroChingon]

Lol, the only cure is Rigo stepping up his performances. Blame game is getting old with these sleep watchers

[DannYankee]

Plenty of boxers given bums to shine on but that is the easy way. Cubans don't do that pussy **** if they can avoid the bums they want the biggest fights now no excuses no b/s . Even if that means not getting the hype of beating on bums on hbo, and I think that is the right way no need to mess around if you're good enough fk the rest in the end if you get to the top the only way anybody around can get there is by knocking you off, and that people want to watch . Not bums getting brain damage the ****tiest fights are the ones where you know the outcome before they even start.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Plenty of boxers given bums to shine on but that is the easy way. Cubans don't do that pussy **** if they can avoid the bums they want the biggest fights now no excuses no b/s . Even if that means not getting the hype of beating on bums on hbo, and I think that is the right way no need to mess around if you're good enough fk the rest in the end if you get to the top the only way anybody around can get there is by knocking you off, and that people want to watch . Not bums getting brain damage the ****tiest fights are the ones where you know the outcome before they even start.

I wonder how much hate and how much hype Rigo would be getting right now if he only fought guys like Kennedy and Casey. lol

[JJRod]

Plenty of boxers given bums to shine on but that is the easy way. Cubans don't do that pussy **** if they can avoid the bums they want the biggest fights now no excuses no b/s . Even if that means not getting the hype of beating on bums on hbo, and I think that is the right way no need to mess around if you're good enough fk the rest in the end if you get to the top the only way anybody around can get there is by knocking you off, and that people want to watch . Not bums getting brain damage the ****tiest fights are the ones where you know the outcome before they even start.

Cubans get put right into the lions den because they're so experienced, they don't need bum fights. Rigondeaux had over 400 amateur fights he doesn't need any experience, he is experienced.

Guys like Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. or JCC Jr. need bum fights because neither had any amateur experience. WV2 didn't put on a pair of glove until his 20's.

[lazaron72]

Rigo is a winner . He beats anybody there is out there . Ask ducknaire .

Why doesn't bob arum put rigos fight in miami ? He should have fought under cotto when he fought here in Orlando , Florida .

Why doesn't arum put Gamboa - Mickey , rigo any Mexican here in miami ? He only wants the Mexicans support not the Cubans .

Rigo doesn't cherry pick . Why doesn't arum offer mares or santacruz big money to fight him ? Either in show time or hbo ?

I believe all. 122 fighters are scared All other promoters too . They know rigo will make them look badly and decrese their money value .
Go rigo !!!! Hit and not get hit ; you can't hit what you don't see . You are a winner .

[DannYankee]

Cubans get put right into the lions den because they're so experienced, they don't need bum fights. Rigondeaux had over 400 amateur fights he doesn't need any experience, he is experienced.

Guys like Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. or JCC Jr. need bum fights because neither had any amateur experience. WV2 didn't put on a pair of glove until his 20's.

You miss out on a lot of good exposure moments when the spotlight is only shining on you on your toughest challenges ever. Especially early in your pro career I never expect Rigo to do the same thing he did to Ramos or Willie Casey to a Donaire. I know there is a chance but is not a certainty let alone a counter puncher; however, he already got the status as a boxer extremely quick so quick it may have hurt him, and now time to do the building up. A career done backwards I guess.

I wonder how much hate and how much hype Rigo would be getting right now if he only fought guys like Kennedy and Casey. lol

Yeah that's what I was thinking I wonder if a career can be built backwards from top to bottom, because you don't get the same benefit of the doubt that you get when you're obviously better than the chump in front of you, but you never have been tested so that boxer gets a pass and a chance to shine. Rigo lost that privilege when he schooled Donaire, but that is what he has to try to do tho unless he goes up, and makes some real noise somehow at 126 unfortunately Rigo is frikking 5'4 .