The Official Miguel Cotto-Sergio Martinez Master Thread

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  • JmH Reborn
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    #1041
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
    I don't understand some of these numbers. 60%? lol I don't know how one can quantify Sergio's necessary capacity for victory, but I think that's a little low. I expect "Maravilla" to win this fight, but I think he needs to be at least close to full potential to realize that. What would that be? 80, 90%? I don't know. But he has to be up there. Cotto is younger and injury-free. Considering the circumstances, he's dangerous. I don't think he'll knock Sergio out, but he might be able to outwork and outpoint the fading champion.
    Yeah when I see ppl say statements like that as it pertains to what percentage someone is, I just roll my eyes. It sounds so dumb, just someone pretending to sound smart

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      #1042
      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
      I don't understand some of these numbers. 60%? lol I don't know how one can quantify Sergio's necessary capacity for victory, but I think that's a little low. I expect "Maravilla" to win this fight, but I think he needs to be at least close to full potential to realize that. What would that be? 80, 90%? I don't know. But he has to be up there. Cotto is younger and injury-free. Considering the circumstances, he's dangerous. I don't think he'll knock Sergio out, but he might be able to outwork and outpoint the fading champion.
      I went down to 60% considering some of cottos key strengths will be neutralised by the size difference. Obviously we can't really measure any of this so percentages is a rough guess at how confident I feel. What I mean is a 6/10 performance from Martinez should be enough to see off what's left of Cotto. I really don't think he's anywhere near prime, but had been such a great fighter he's been able to carry on at a high level with what remains.

      However I think his last performance was very flattering, they picked the right guy to look good against.

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        #1043
        Originally posted by JmH Reborn
        Yeah when I see ppl say statements like that as it pertains to what percentage someone is, I just roll my eyes. It sounds so dumb, just someone pretending to sound smart
        I just read a really good article on the fight. When I get to my PC later, I'll post it. Amongst other things, Martinez and his people are saying he's "100%." If that's true, and people have been known to lie about such things, there should be no excuses.

        In a highly unusual move, the NYSAC ordered special MRIs on Sergio's right knee and right hand. I knew Martinez had two operations on his knee. What I didn't know is that he twice broke the same hand. This might all turn out to be much ado about nothing, but it's sure making the lead-up to this fight intriguing.

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          #1044
          Originally posted by MBE
          I went down to 60% considering some of cottos key strengths will be neutralised by the size difference. Obviously we can't really measure any of this so percentages is a rough guess at how confident I feel. What I mean is a 6/10 performance from Martinez should be enough to see off what's left of Cotto. I really don't think he's anywhere near prime, but had been such a great fighter he's been able to carry on at a high level with what remains.

          However I think his last performance was very flattering, they picked the right guy to look good against.
          Understood. Cotto isn't just the smaller man, he's also seen better days. I agree. I just have a problem accepting these estimates on Martinez's health. Despite being in basic accord with you, I think Sergio has to be pretty close to 100% to win this fight comfortably. Much less makes the fight too close to confidently predict, in my opinion.

          The Rodriguez fight says nothing about Miguel's preparedness for this next fight. Delvin is nowhere near "Maravilla's" caliber. I think most serious fans understand that.

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            #1045
            Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
            I just read a really good article on the fight. When I get to my PC later, I'll post it. Amongst other things, Martinez and his people are saying he's "100%." If that's true, and people have been known to lie about such things, there should be no excuses.

            In a highly unusual move, the NYSAC ordered special MRIs on Sergio's right knee and right hand. I knew Martinez had two operations on his knee. What I didn't know is that he twice broke the same hand. This might all turn out to be much ado about nothing, but it's sure making the lead-up to this fight intriguing.
            NYSAC covering their asses on the medical front with the Magomed scandal hanging over them it seems.

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              #1046
              Wow. Freddie Roach disrespected the hell out of Martinez. LOL.

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                #1047
                24/7 was sick!

                Im so READY for this fight I could fight Sergio my self! lol! Im ready son! I cant wait!!!

                LMAO when Freddy was told about Sergio being tall, he said something aling the lines of ......he will not look that tall when he is laid out! I LOL'd like a little kid!!!

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                • CubanGuyNYC
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                  #1048
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                  NYSAC covering their asses on the medical front with the Magomed scandal hanging over them it seems.
                  It seems that way.

                  Originally posted by ColdBlooded
                  If Martinez passed the MRIs, he can't be too bad.
                  That's what I thought, too. Then again, those tests catch injuries up to a certain extent. I wouldn't say they're a guarantee of anything, except that the injuries aren't severe.

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                    #1049
                    Originally posted by -jose-
                    I'll just put this here to get the blood pumping

                    Oh snap dog! Cuantas memorias de mi Isla! Wow, hace tiempo que no voy pa'ya. Me hisistes estranar mis Panitas, los Viejos y mi Isla preciosa!

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                      #1050
                      Do anyone knows what song is Cotto coming out to? Or is he coming out with no music like for the Delvin fight?

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