"We all shine like stars, then we fade away"

[Salardo]

Had to quote Everlast for this one. Victor Ortiz got me thinking about this quote. Victor was shining bright in the Andre Berto fight, that was his peak.
The reality is in boxing 90 % of all world champions shine like stars for only a very short period of time. In Victor's case that short period was cut down to one single fight, but the bottom line is if you take a look at the guys who were regarded as the "best fighter" of a division - you can clearly see they were there for 1 or 2 years at the most. For example Vernon Forrest (R.I.P.) was "the man" at welterweight after beating Mosley, then he immediately lost to Mayorga who became "the man" for a short period of time. Then Mayorga lost in his very next fight against Cory Spinks.

What about Jermain Taylor? Kelly Pavlik?
It just shows how tough this sport is and it takes so much out of a fighter to get to the top, that staying there for a longer period of time is almost impossible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBS5EtszYI

[-MAKAVELLI-]

i think Ortiz could have gotten up before the 10 count

[bojangles1987]

Then you see Mayweather do it 17 years, and Hopkins for more than 20, and Pacquiao going on 15 or 16, and it makes you realize just how freaking great they are. Think about how many entire careers have taken place in that time frame. Good careers, too, not just guys who give the attempt but never fight at a world class level.

[MoneyMay11]

i think Ortiz could have gotten up before the 10 count

Yup. No question he got knocked down but he didn't seem hurt.


He just said '**** this'

[MoneyMay11]

Then you see Mayweather do it 17 years, and Hopkins for more than 20, and Pacquiao going on 15 or 16, and it makes you realize just how freaking great they are. Think about how many entire careers have taken place in that time frame. Good careers, too, not just guys who give the attempt but never fight at a world class level.

Amen. We really live in a great era of boxing. We won't see another Mayweather Pacquiao or Hopkins for I don't even know. 30 years?

[Drunk Punch]

Ortiz reached his peak and got the reward, a mega pay day against Mayweather. Not many fighters get that kind of financial success in their careers.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Then you see Mayweather do it 17 years, and Hopkins for more than 20, and Pacquiao going on 15 or 16, and it makes you realize just how freaking great they are. Think about how many entire careers have taken place in that time frame. Good careers, too, not just guys who give the attempt but never fight at a world class level.

i think PAC started in 95...19 years with that style is insane

Yup. No question he got knocked down but he didn't seem hurt.


He just said '**** this'

it was Collazo, not ****ing Julian Jackson that hit his ass...IMHO, i agree...he said **** it...dude is a quitter

[DARKSEID]

Not all of us shine, not all of us fade away.

[SthPaw]

Then you see Mayweather do it 17 years, and Hopkins for more than 20, and Pacquiao going on 15 or 16, and it makes you realize just how freaking great they are. Think about how many entire careers have taken place in that time frame. Good careers, too, not just guys who give the attempt but never fight at a world class level.

This is a great point. When you consider all the fighters who come and go and seem they could possibly be great for certain periods of time and all the while we have these guys still around and doing their thing, it really is a testament to them and how great they are. Guys as you say like Hopkins, Mayweather, Pacquiao...been around and on top for years while tons of other stars come and go, good point man I never really thought about that.

[MoneyMay11]

How much did Ortiz make against Floyd ?