Comments Thread For: Bradley Open To Marquez and Provodnikov Rematches

[Evol]

if he was on something it was in the ariza era, now he wants vada testing for his fights and if you ask me he has looked less then stellar after ariza left and dont bring up rios either imo anybody that has good foot work and speed looks good against a flat footed slow fighter, if you know how to read i didnt accuse pac fans of anything my comment was........hypocrite much pacquiao ??
Unless your name is pacquiao feel free to answer

so once again no proof nada. MARQUEZ works with a KNOWN STERIODS pusher. what do u have on pac again??? so now its pac?? when did pac ever accused marquez of cheating?

[Evol]

That's a platitude at best. Its not an answer. There is no detail.

Bradley is not an easy sell. He would want near the limit of what Cotto made. His style is not entertaining. He cannot fill seats.

Floyd's been smart in choosing who he fights. Why would he go against what's been working for him?

just like i've been saying if bradley was to fight floyd now he'll be making 3mil or so if he's lucky lol.. i dont know where dunn gets this idea that floyd will give bradley 10mil??? cotto and canelo made close to that and look at their fanbase. cotto and canelo made close to that because floyd knows damm well that 95% of the people there is because of them.

[The Big Dunn]

That's a platitude at best. Its not an answer. There is no detail.

Bradley is not an easy sell. He would want near the limit of what Cotto made. His style is not entertaining. He cannot fill seats.

Floyd's been smart in choosing who he fights. Why would he go against what's been working for him?

You don't need tim to sell seats, you need the public to believe he could beat floyd. If Tim beats manny clearly he would have beaten JMM and manny, be a top 3 o4 4 p4p fighter and an undefeated AMerican ww.

Together, he and floyd could play off each other, and create interest in the fight. Tim is ging to have to do what floyd did with ODH- give casual fans who may not know him a reason to buy the fight.

WIll it do Canelo sales, of course not.

[marvin douglas]

Its very bizarre to read this. why is Braadley focusing on rematches with guys he beat. why isn't he trying to continue to climb the ladder and/or get in there with fighters who are better than these guys at the moment.

Again, I understand why he took the TR guarantee and why his wife negotiated it the way she did. But to think he would express the desire to fight JMM and Ruslan again rather than Floyd and Danny is mind boggling.

Tim is essentially going to remain in limbo never taking a chance to beat better fighters, grow his fanbase and earn more money.

What you don't recognize is that there are very few "legitimate" contenders out there. If he fights a lesser opponent, he will be accused of cherry-picking. In fact, there were those in the media who said Tim cherry-picked Ruslan. Who was he before he fought Tim?

[The Big Dunn]

just like i've been saying if bradley was to fight floyd now he'll be making 3mil or so if he's lucky lol.. i dont know where dunn gets this idea that floyd will give bradley 10mil??? cotto and canelo made close to that and look at their fanbase. cotto and canelo made close to that because floyd knows damm well that 95% of the people there is because of them.

I never gave any dollar figure that Tim would make so don't list a fictititious amount please.
There is no way an undefeated bradley coming off a ppv clear win over Manny in which he made $6 mil plus would even agree to a fight for $3 mil.

Come on man at some point you have to think about this rationally and not as someone trying to win an NSB debate.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

You don't need tim to sell seats, you need the public to believe he could beat floyd. If Tim beats manny clearly he would have beaten JMM and Tim, be a top 3 o4 4 p4p fighter and an undefeated AMerican ww.

Together, he and floyd could play off each other, and create interest in the fight. Tim is ging to have to do what floyd did with ODH- give casual fans who may not know him a reason to buy the fight.

WIll it do Canelo sales, of course not.

As much sense as this fight makes...its simply not how FLoyd has been doing business the last few years. He hasnt been in the business of having to take a fighter with no following and make him desirable. That takes money and effort.

Mosely was the closest thing to TB in terms of a challenge to market...but Mosely at least has his name.

Look I would love to see this fight (have been for awhile) I just dont see Floyd going this route when he has more marketable fighters with belts, lower monetary demands and all the trimmings to fight.

[The Big Dunn]

What you don't recognize is that there are very few "legitimate" contenders out there. If he fights a lesser opponent, he will be accused of cherry-picking. In fact, there were those in the media who said Tim cherry-picked Ruslan. Who was he before he fought Tim?

Who gives a **** what a few loudmouthed imbeciles on NSB or anywhere else say regarding cherry picking. There will always be that ignorant subset everywhere and we need not empower them by giving what they say any power or validity. Ignore ******ed crap like that.

[LADIV]

so once again no proof nada. MARQUEZ works with a KNOWN STERIODS pusher. what do u have on pac again??? so now its pac?? when did pac ever accused marquez of cheating?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1426234-freddie-roach-accuses-marques-of-steroid-use-prior-to-pacquiao-fight#articles/1426234-freddie-roach-accuses-marques-of-steroid-use-prior-to-pacquiao-fight

[Evol]

I never gave any dollar figure that Tim would make so don't list a fictititious amount please.
There is no way an undefeated bradley coming off a ppv clear win over Manny in which he made $6 mil plus would even agree to a fight for $3 mil.

Come on man at some point you have to think about this rationally and not as someone trying to win an NSB debate.

yes u did dunn.... the other day on another thread u said tim would be making canelo/cotto type amount against floyd. dont make me pull that post up for u. im feeling nice today its FRIEDAY dont wanna exposed u again. but honestly i really dont see floyd giving bradley anymore than 3mil. being undefeated doesnt matter its how much u're worth remember??

[The Big Dunn]

As much sense as this fight makes...its simply not how FLoyd has been doing business the last few years. He hasnt been in the business of having to take a fighter with no following and make him desirable. That takes money and effort.

Mosely was the closest thing to TB in terms of a challenge to market...but Mosely at least has his name.

Look I would love to see this fight (have been for awhile) I just dont see Floyd going this route when he has more marketable fighters with belts, lower monetary demands and all the trimmings to fight.

The reality is there are only 2 Canelo level paydays left for floyd, Manny if he keeps winning and cotto if he KO's Sergio.

everything else is likely in the $35-45 mil range (I can't ****ing believe I just typed those amounts like they are small sums).

If you can ge an undefeated tim and then an undefeated danny you may pull a little more .

Rememeber, he fought Mosley because he was the #1 ww and floyd was #2. he had to win that fight to move forward. Same thing here. The consensus lineal ww title allows him to move forward to the more lucrative fights.

Honestly, I am nopt convinced Khan, broner, thurman would be more lucrative. But again, if he loses to manny this is all moot because then his value drops significantly.