What is the "hoodlum" element in boxing?

[punchr]

I've heard Joe Rogan refer to boxing having a "hoodlum" (or hooligan) element.

Bob Arum also said boxing has a hoodlum element.

Rogan and Arum were very specific. They both said that there's a hoodlum element today -- and in the past, of course.

So what exactly is the hoodlum element, Non Stop Boxing?

[Hagler★]

That was their polite way of saying there are many young black males in boxing.

It's like people calling that Seahawks player a thug when they really wanted to say *******

[punchr]

That was their polite way of saying there are many young black males in boxing.

It's like people calling that Seahawks player a thug when they really wanted to say *******

But is it limited to black guys? Can latinos be the hoodlums too? Marcos Maidana, Lucas Matthysse, Brandon Rios -- they all look like they used to be troublemakers. Is that what Rogan and Arum mean? Or am I missing something?

[bojangles1987]

I assume they are talking about the types of poorer class kids who get into boxing, who have shady backgrounds before they find a gym. And of course, many of them never break those habits and do scummy things even while boxing.

[bojangles1987]

That was their polite way of saying there are many young black males in boxing.

It's like people calling that Seahawks player a thug when they really wanted to say *******

I don't think that's what they're talking about at all. They would have said thug or ****** if that's what they meant.

[alexguiness]

I would be really interested (seriously) to know what the Rap culture or Gang element has influenced professional boxing.

As i am from the UK I am completely uninformed but from the outside it would appear that Rapping / Boxing rivalries are present, especially from the promotional side.

[punchr]

I assume they are talking about the types of poorer class kids who get into boxing, who have shady backgrounds before they find a gym. And of course, many of them never break those habits and do scummy things even while boxing.

So that's all Rogan and Arum were referring to? They weren't talking about the mob?

[WARQUEZ]

Boxing is a sport where violent youth come to play.

[junior gong]

I'm seeing a few chips on some of the shoulders in here.

[RlCKY]

Training in the specific areas of MMA costs a lot of money. You have to be well versed in several disciplines.

Many visits to different types of gyms. All-state wrestlers coming from High Schools with highly regarded backgrounds.

Boxing seems like kids with roads of life leading to deads ends finding hope in a pair of boxing gloves.

This obviously doesn't apply to every scenario, but most.

They say " you don't choose boxing, boxing chooses you" I think for the most part people, especially high level fighters, choose MMA.