history repeats its self once again!! if this fight does happen!!! it would just be floyd fighting another fighter past his prime!!! examples : cotto, mosley, ODL in his prime! , P Williams, maravilla martinez!! and now pacman!!! cherry picking floyd
Comments Thread For: Mosley: Pacquiao's Power Could Be Key With Mayweather
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They didn't hurt him that bad. Corley rocked Mayweather too but Floyd is excellent at recovering.Comment
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No, he hasn't. Floyd rarely gets hit and when he does, he looks bad. I'd say Floyd's chin looks below average. When he starts getting hit as he fades, will it end up being complete crap like Roy Jones? Who knows, but Floyd's been hurt by one punch on more than one occasion--and some of those were by guys that have average power (Chop Chop Corley). A completely shot Mosley rang his bell with a straight right too and Zab knocked him down.
Great reflexes can hide bad chins. But, to be honest, I don't remember Roy ever getting rang up by anybody until he was shot. And, Roy fought two of the best middleweights of all-time in their prime (Toney and Bernard). Floyd has fought nobody comparable in their prime and has still been rung up).Comment
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if I read this correctly-floyd has been hurt on more than one occassion but has never been stopped or KD other than zab, he withstood two massive shots from shane and didn't go down-and this is evidence that he DOESN'T have a solid chin?No, he hasn't. Floyd rarely gets hit and when he does, he looks bad. I'd say Floyd's chin looks below average. When he starts getting hit as he fades, will it end up being complete crap like Roy Jones? Who knows, but Floyd's been hurt by one punch on more than one occasion--and some of those were by guys that have average power (Chop Chop Corley). A completely shot Mosley rang his bell with a straight right too and Zab knocked him down.
Great reflexes can hide bad chins. But, to be honest, I don't remember Roy ever getting rang up by anybody until he was shot. And, Roy fought two of the best middleweights of all-time in their prime (Toney and Bernard). Floyd has fought nobody comparable in their prime and has still been rung up).Comment
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Who walked away from negotiations in 2009? Exaclty
Bradley seemed to look okay as well as Shane, and one of them had two broken ankles.
Having great footwork and running are two different things. If Manny had better footwork he would of never been KTFO.
Um, who walked away from negotiations in 2009 and declined a 40 million dollar offer? If Manny resigns with TR at the end of the year I guess we will know who is ducking... How can Floyd fight anyone from TR when there is a cold war, please tell me.
Pacquiao who has very limited boxing skills is going to outbox the world's greatest boxer? Pacquiao outboxed RIOS!!!! A C level fighter. Come on, you can't be serious.... as a casual fan you can't believe that statement! Geez.
JMM boxed him in the 3rd fight and got robbed and Bradley boxed and won. JMM knew he had to KO in order to get a clear and decisive win. Joshua Clottley, Shane and Bradley all looked just fine after they fought Manny.To beat Pasquaio I think you have to be willing to trade with him like Marquez did in all their fights. If you run and try to pot shot him, you're gonna lose rounds because he throws 4-5 punch combinations.
Would Floyd be able to move and hit him with 1 or 2 punch combos all night and be able to avoid getting into a real war with him? Maybe, but I think at some point Manny would land some straight left hands and we'd see how Floyd reacts to it. He's not going to stand toe to toe because unlike all these recent guys Floyd has fought, Manny actually has great hand speed and hits from different angles..it would be a good fight just based on the different styles. People who compare Marquez and Floyds counter punching styles don't see the difference in their offensive output. Everyone who fights Manny looks like they've been in a war afterwards, win or lose...
Pacman's footwork stinks. That is how he got KOed. Let's be for real.
SO when Ward said that Bradley will beat Manny the second time ya'll called Ward every single name in the book but because a fighter agrees to your propaganda you think he is spot on... interesting.An honest appraisal from Shane.
I just don't think Floyd can get the W against Manny and Floyd knows it.
With that single loss his stock would plummet as fast as the Broner Minstrel Show.
Still, I think Pac/Mayweather will take place in Sept. with Floyd calling it a career in a rematch the following year.
How is he going to fight either fighter when THERE IS A COLD WAR? Floyd has repeatedly said he would not work for Rob Arum? Bradley can kiss a Mayweather fight goodbye because he signed an extension and Pac it remains to be seen what he will do. They are only over matched after Floyd beats them.
He would of beat him in 09 but Pac left negotiations and didn't want 40 million dollars. I guess Manny doesn't realy want the fight.You boys are so funny
answer me this, just try, I know its a strain.
After reading some posts it comes down to that Jr can easily whup Pac
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here's da question:
WHY hasn't he done then ? ITs the biggest money fight out there !!!!
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So now the red head is slow? Okay. those skills you speak of and speed and power seemed to be missing against JMM and Bradley. Speed don't mean **** if you don't know how to use it. He is fast but he is reckless with it at times.you were almost right but you use canelo's slow as s as an example. manny has speed that canelo only can dream of. manny also got the skills you speak of. he has skills, speed, and power, a deadly combination that could give floyd a run for his money and if manny had his stamina and endurance of old then things could get very interesting. but I still give floyd a slight edge because of his boxing acumen.
Mayweather's glove barely touched the canvas yes it should of been considered a knock down but you act like his entire glove touched the canvas and getting dropped is what happened to Manny in the 4th fight with JMM, Shane rocked him clean but he recovered beautifully!
Actually Zab was faster than Mayweather at the time and hit harder sorry.No Floyd has exceptional reflhe has not been hit flush very often in his career. The couple of times that I have seen clean shots he was hurt to some extent. I believe one of thexes, e reason's he has not fought Pacquiao is Manny's speed, for once in his career Floyd would be the slower fighter. He fears that fact, along with Manny's power.Comment
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The problem is though that Corley shouldn't have been able to rock Floyd. Can you name any other top tier fighter that Corley rocked like that? Corley's power was never great. Great chins are guys that get hit by people with thunderous power and don't get hurt. We can all agree that floyd doesn't have a great chin. He recovers fast though, as you say. That means a lot. Look at Evander Holyfiled. he got hurt by lots of people, but he was damn near impossible to put away because he recovered so quickly.Comment
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Sorry but Corley had Cotto doing the stanky leg AFTER he fought Mayweather aside from Corley rocking Floyd, Floyd beat dude up and dropped him. Any fighter can be hit and rocked but what matters more is what a fighter can do when it happens. Floyd has shown better resistance rhan Manny. Shane talking about Manny hurting Floyd but Floyd can hurt Manny too. Manny has no defense or adjustability. Floyd's been hurt but dominant in the same fights.The problem is though that Corley shouldn't have been able to rock Floyd. Can you name any other top tier fighter that Corley rocked like that? Corley's power was never great. Great chins are guys that get hit by people with thunderous power and don't get hurt. We can all agree that floyd doesn't have a great chin. He recovers fast though, as you say. That means a lot. Look at Evander Holyfiled. he got hurt by lots of people, but he was damn near impossible to put away because he recovered so quickly.Last edited by GRUSTLER; 01-27-2014, 04:02 PM.Comment
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