Manny Pacquiao Vs Timothy Bradley 2 & Undercards Master Discussion Thread

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  • JustinFloyd
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    #2361
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    I already answered. I'll leave you alone.
    lol! old Big Dumb Dunn.... Bradley swinging hard and wild punches since early rounds that's why he caught Pac once that made Pac elevate on his two feet...

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      #2362
      Originally posted by JustinFloyd
      lol! old Big Dumb Dunn.... Bradley swinging hard and wild punches since early rounds that's why he caught Pac once that made Pac elevate on his two feet...
      That was likely more attributed to bad balance than Bradley's power. You get points for a knockdown, not a lift up. Once he landed that punch it should've been clear to him that he didn't have enough power to KO him.

      Tim Bradley is more likely to win a fight by boxing than he is by KO, no matter who the opponent is. I would think you would go with your strengths.

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        #2363
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        That was likely more attributed to bad balance than Bradley's power. You get points for a knockdown, not a lift up. Once he landed that punch it should've been clear to him that he didn't have enough power to KO him.

        Tim Bradley is more likely to win a fight by boxing than he is by KO, no matter who the opponent is. I would think you would go with your strengths.
        He tried to box Pac on first fight, we all know the result, its more lopsided...

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          #2364
          Originally posted by JustinFloyd
          He tried to box Pac on first fight, we all know the result, its more lopsided...
          EXACTLY MY POINT. In this fight he was even through 6. In the 1st fight Tim lost the 1st 8 rds IMO.

          Tim's best chance to win any fight is boxing, not trying for a one punch KO, something, to my knowledge, he has never achieved in his career.

          If he stuck with the gameplan maybe he wins, maybe he loses. We don't know.

          what we do know is he was even after 6, something he wasn't in the first fight.

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            #2365
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            EXACTLY MY POINT. In this fight he was even through 6. In the 1st fight Tim lost the 1st 8 rds IMO.

            Tim's best chance to win any fight is boxing, not trying for a one punch KO, something, to my knowledge, he has never achieved in his career.

            If he stuck with the gameplan maybe he wins, maybe he loses. We don't know.

            what we do know is he was even after 6, something he wasn't in the first fight.
            I don't think you understood him correctly... By "we all know what happened the first fight" he means, we know PAC won more decisively... So he's saying PAC beats a boxing Bradley clearer than a brawler Bradley...

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            • Evol
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              #2366
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              EXACTLY MY POINT. In this fight he was even through 6. In the 1st fight Tim lost the 1st 8 rds IMO.

              Tim's best chance to win any fight is boxing, not trying for a one punch KO, something, to my knowledge, he has never achieved in his career.

              If he stuck with the gameplan maybe he wins, maybe he loses. We don't know.

              what we do know is he was even after 6, something he wasn't in the first fight.
              wtf is wrong with u like seriously?? "if he stuck with his game plan".. are u ******ed bro?? if a lot of fighters stuck with their game plan then everyone would be winners and there would be no loser. but reality is, when the other guy is neutralizing what u bring to the dance, u have to switch up in order to survive, its a 12 round fight not 6. he could be doing well during those 6 rounds but perphaps he couldnt keep up the pace, etc.

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                #2367
                Originally posted by Evol
                wtf is wrong with u like seriously?? "if he stuck with his game plan".. are u ******ed bro?? if a lot of fighters stuck with their game plan then everyone would be winners and there would be no loser. but reality is, when the other guy is neutralizing what u bring to the dance, u have to switch up in order to survive, its a 12 round fight not 6. he could be doing well during those 6 rounds but perphaps he couldnt keep up the pace, etc.
                If he stuck with the gameplan his trainer asked him to. is that better.

                I didn't think Manny was nuetralizing it, I thought tim was having success, more success than he did in the first fight at the same point. I think the fact he won 3 rds as opposed to none in the 1st fight shows this.

                Agree its not a 6 rd fight. swinging wildly and missing is more tiring on your arms, saps your strength (making a 1 punch KO less likely, especially for a guy with no power) compromises your balance and puts you in poor defensive position, making it harder for you to win, not easier.

                thats why I asked rome what he thought, if it was fatigue or if it was something else.

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                  #2368
                  Originally posted by 5.4ever
                  I don't think you understood him correctly... By "we all know what happened the first fight" he means, we know PAC won more decisively... So he's saying PAC beats a boxing Bradley clearer than a brawler Bradley...
                  i think the fact tim had won more rounds midway through the fight this fight than the 1st fight suggests otherwise. Manny is better than tim and beat him clearly both fights, no question.

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                  • Evol
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                    #2369
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    If he stuck with the gameplan his trainer asked him to. is that better.

                    I didn't think Manny was nuetralizing it, I thought tim was having success, more success than he did in the first fight at the same point. I think the fact he won 3 rds as opposed to none in the 1st fight shows this.

                    Agree its not a 6 rd fight. swinging wildly and missing is more tiring on your arms, saps your strength (making a 1 punch KO less likely, especially for a guy with no power) compromises your balance and puts you in poor defensive position, making it harder for you to win, not easier.

                    thats why I asked rome what he thought, if it was fatigue or if it was something else.
                    but u're acting like he abandon his game plan for no reason. thats like me saying if pac would have fought like he did in the early rounds of the 4th rematch with marquez pac would have ko or beat marquez, do u agree with this?

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                      #2370
                      Originally posted by JustinFloyd
                      He tried to box Pac on first fight, we all know the result, its more lopsided...
                      He hurt himself in both fights and was boxing Pac up nicely in the rematch. That damn voodoo curse...what can ya say, a cheater's gonna cheat.

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